Albert Mohler & Mark Dever

Dr. R Albert Mohler

Every year John Macarthur invites Dr. R. Albert Mohler to be a keynote speaker at the GCC Pastors’ Conference. Dr. Mohler is greatly respected and sometimes quoted by GCC pastors in their sermons. Since John Macarthur invites Dr. Mohler to speak at his church, most Christians would assume he’s a true Christian. Let me give some information regarding Dr. Mohler.

Dr. Mohler is the President of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary; he is a member of the Board of Directors of “Focus on the Family;” and he has served as the chairman of the Billy Graham Crusades. According to his website bio, Dr. Mohler hosts a national radio program, “The Albert Mohler Program,” and has been listed in a Time magazine cover story as one of its “50 for the Future” evangelicals. Widely sought as a columnist and commentator, Dr. Mohler has been quoted by the N.Y. Times, The Wall St. Journal, USA Today and the Washington Post, among others. He’s appeared on many national news programs such as the “Today Show”, “Dateline NBC” and “The News Hour with Jim Leher.” Clearly, he has a close relationship with the Satanic press.

Let’s now focus on another of Dr. Mohler’s associations; an association that has been left out of his website bio. Dr. Mohler is a Founding Fellow of the Research Institute (think tank) of The Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission (ERLC). The ERLC is the public policy arm of the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC). Why is this information noteworthy? Because the ERLC is a non-governmental organization (NGO) listed with the UN’s Department of Public Information (DPI).

It can be seen that Dr. Mohler is a Founding Fellow of the ERLC by going to http://www.erlc.com/ and by clicking on “The Institute” at the top, then clicking on “Research Institute Fellows” near the bottom left of the page. One can see that the ERLC is a UN-NGO on the UNESCO website (www.un.org/ecosoc/). Click on “NGO Participation” and type in ERLC.

The ERLC of the SBC is a UN-NGO. What does it mean that the ERLC partners with the UN as an NGO? What are the criteria for NGO’s to be granted this status? The following are just a few of the criteria taken from UN Resolution 1996/31: “The NGO must support the principles of the Charter of the UN.” “The NGO must have a clear mission statement that is consistent with those principles.” “The NGO must have a satisfactory record of collaboration with the UN prior to association.” “The NGO must promote the initiatives and programmes, disseminate information and mobilize public opinion in support of the UN.” “The NGO must provide the UN with an audited annual financial statement.” And “the NGO must promote knowledge of the principles and activities of the UN.” (“Arrangements for Consultation with Non-Governmental Organizations“) This document makes it clear that no organization can be granted this status by the UN by accident. To be granted this status, an organization must agree with the UN and its one-world agenda.

Since all NGO’s must be in agreement with the UN agenda, and since that agenda includes the destruction of biblical Christianity and the creation of Satan’s one-world government with the emergence of the anti-Christ, one wouldn’t expect to find any church denominations with NGO status. But expectations can be wrong. The amazing fact is that many, if not all, of the major church denominations have been granted NGO status by the UN, and therefore, are all on board with the UN anti-Christ agenda. To give one example of this, years ago, I was urged to “trick or treat for UNICEF” (United Nations Children’s Fund) by the local United Methodist Church. The UMC serves the UN agenda as an NGO. This church/NGO encouraged “trick or treating” because it helped finance UNICEF.

The president of the ERLC and Dr. Mohler’s superior at the ERLC is Dr. Richard Land. Dr. Land is also a Founding Fellow of the Research Institute of the ERLC. Dr. Land was recently appointed to a second term on the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom by President Bush. In 2005, Dr. Land was featured in Time magazine as one of “The 25 Most Influential Evangelicals in America.” According to the ERLC website, more than 1.5 million people tune in weekly for the “For Faith and Family” broadcast ministry to hear Dr. Land speak on the social, ethical, and public policy issues facing our country. Dr. Land once told the SBC trustees that “there is nothing being done in the SBC that is more important than what is being done at the ERLC.”

Two years ago, it was stated on the ERLC’s “For Faith and Family” website [it’s since been changed] under “about us” that the Research Institute “brings together some of the brightest minds in the country to develop strategies for transforming the culture.” At the top of the opening page of the ERLC’s website under the “For Faith and Family” logo, it stated, “Transforming America.”

The ERLC publishes a magazine called “Faith & Family Values.” On the back cover of the July-August 2005 issue is an advertisement for Dr. Land’s book, “Imagine a God blessed America” (2006). The ad states, “Imagine an America…Where more Christians are radical change agents. Where people are liberated from the cult of self, and instead committed to the common good.” The ad goes on to say, “Dr. Richard Land, named one of ‘The Top 25 Most Influential Evangelicals in America’ by Time magazine in 2005, boldly casts this compelling and inspiring vision, declaring that real change is possible…”

Dr. Land wants Christians to be “radical change agents committed to the common good.” This is clearly the language of Communitarianism and the dialectic process. A change agent’s purpose is to get others to compromise their Biblically-held truths for the “common good.” Like Tom Patton, the former Guild pastor, Dr. Land also “boldly casts” this “vision.”

According to the article, “Southern Baptist Leaders Claim Ties to Council on Foreign Relations,” by Bob Allen, written 11-30-06, Richard Land is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). 129. “Richard Land, president and CEO of the Southern Baptist Convention Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission, and Rick Warren, a mega-church pastor and author of The Purpose Driven Life, are on record as belonging to the Council on Foreign Relations.” This very disturbing fact, if true, hasn’t prevented John Macarthur from inviting Richard Land’s close associate, Al Mohler, into his church every year. Recall that John Todd stated that all members of the CFR believe that Lucifer is god supreme.

According to an article written by the Baptist Press 10-01-08, Richard Land is calling for “bridges of understanding” to solve the conflicts between the U.S. and Muslim communities. 130. To facilitate these bridges of understanding, Land, along with Madeleine Albright, are listed among members of the U.S. Muslim Engagement Project’s 33-member leadership group (33 is an important number in Free Masonry). This group “was supported in its work by Search for Common Ground and the Consensus Building Institute.” Are Christians called to find common ground and to reach consensus with Muslims? According to the article, the leadership group’s plans were lauded by Stephen Heintz, president of the Rockefeller Brothers Fund.

The Research Institute of the ERLC is located at Leland House on Capitol Hill in Washington D.C. The Institute’s director is Dr. Barrett Duke, Jr. During a phone conversation with a gentleman at Leland House, I was told that ALL the Research Institute Fellows (Dr. Mohler included) were dedicated to fulfilling the principles of the Charter of the UN. This fact can be assumed because, naturally, a fellow of a UN-NGO would be dedicated to the UN Charter.

The Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the SBC is a front organization for the UN. This fact raises the following question: how can the SBC leaders claim to be opposed to the “globalist/one-world agenda” when they are, as a UN-NGO, dedicated to fulfilling this agenda? This right-wing, conservative Christian image that is put forth by the SBC/ERLC is clearly contradicted by solid evidence that the SBC/ERLC is working with the UN. “How can an organization advocate for the right, when they’re connected to the UN? Why do organizations which seem in opposition to each other have secret connections? The answer is to be found in the dialectical process; for those who would be enemies have now found ‘common ground.’ This is about synthesizing the far right with the far left into a ‘third way.’” (The Third Way: Politics of the Radical Center) It appears that John Macarthur has also now found common ground with Christ’s enemies.

Those who cite Dr. Mohler’s firing of liberals at Southern Seminary as evidence that he must be a “true brother in Christ” fail to understand that in creating a “conservative renaissance at the SBC,” they have created a successful “front” organization; for a successful front organization will have a label or an appearance that is to the far extreme of what the organization really does. This is why Communist front organizations are called “People for the American Way” or “Students for a Democratic Society.” If the SBC had a “left-wing” label or appearance, then it couldn’t draw the Christian, right-wing community into globalism.

This type of deception is called a “controlled opposition.” According to Barbara Aho, “In this deception, the perception is created that someone is out there fighting for conservative Christianity. This person gains the trust of Christians and then diverts their energy in another direction. Christians may think that someone is fighting their fight when, in fact, no conservative Christian agenda is being advanced. Because right wing front groups are created to deceive and to manipulate conservative Christianity, it’s important that Christians look beyond the outward appearance of organizations that profess to be Christian in order to evaluate their true agenda; for it is the goal of change agents within pseudo-Christian organizations to synthesize Christians with the world.”

Dr. Mohler is also a board member of “Focus on the Family.” FOTF is a highly ecumenical organization led by the psychologist, James Dobson. FOTF is also a UN-NGO with special consultative status listed with the UN’s Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC). (One can see that FOTF is dedicated to the UN agenda by going to the UN-Geneva website at http://www.unog.ch/.) Therefore, Dr. Mohler holds leadership positions in at least 2 NGO’s that serve the UN’s anti-Christ, one-world agenda. But this hasn’t stopped John Macarthur from inviting him into his church and pulpit every year.

“In 1989 Focus on the Family vice president Rolf Zettersten testified: ‘One of the striking first impressions I had when I came to Focus on the Family seven years ago was the diversity of denominations represented by my co-workers’ (Focus on the Family, December 1988). He said: ‘I joined the Nazarenes, Presbyterians, Baptists, and Charismatics (& many other denominations) who had cast their theological distinctives aside in order to achieve a common objective—to help families.’” 131. Diversity setting aside their differences to focus on a common issue is the synthesis phase of the dialectic process. To always be in this synthesis phase is “life-long learning.”

Dr. Mohler has been Chairman of a Billy Graham Crusade. According to David Cloud, “On May 3, 2001, the Baptist Press ran an article entitled “Hundreds of Southern Students Prepare for Graham Crusade.” R. Albert Mohler, Jr., President of Southern Seminary, served as the chairman of Graham’s crusade. He told the Baptist Press, ‘Nothing else has brought together the kind of ethnic and racial and denominational inclusivity as is represented in this crusade; nothing in my experience and nothing in the recent history of Louisville has brought together such a group of committed Christians for one purpose.’” Dr. Mohler is talking about pastors coming together from diverse backgrounds and setting aside their differences for a common purpose. This is the synthesis phase of the dialectic process.

I was told by the GCC staff that all questions directed to Dr. Mohler at the Pastors’ Conference would be pre-screened. For a $325 admission fee, I wouldn’t be allowed to ask a question of Dr. Mohler without it being approved. I know that John Macarthur and the GCC elders and pastors are aware of Dr. Mohler’s UN connections (I have told them). They don’t want his UN connections exposed. Why? Is it because the exposure would hinder John Macarthur’s ecumenical objectives?

John Macarthur is disobedient to the Biblical doctrine of separation and his elders and pastors seem to be in the business of justifying that disobedience. At the 2005 pastors’ conference, Phil Johnson gave a talk entitled “Dead Right: The Failure of Fundamentalism.” In that talk, Mr. Johnson attempted to justify inviting Dr. Mohler to the Shepherds’ Conference. Mr. Johnson stated, ‘Billy Graham refuses to practice separation from Roman Catholics and liberals. OK, we won’t participate in his crusades. But Al Mohler once participated in a Billy Graham Crusade. Are we therefore obliged to separate from Al Mohler? Now you’re into the third degree of separation. And since we haven’t broken fellowship with Mohler, are fundamentalists required to separate from John Macarthur and everyone who associates with him? See how quickly we get to fourth and fifth-degree separation? But that is exactly the way separation works in the modern fundamentalist movement. Seriously, a fundamentalist friend told me that the main reason he could never attend a Shepherds’ Conference or have anything to do with John Macarthur is because Macarthur hasn’t broken fellowship with Al Mohler, and Mohler has a connection to Billy Graham, and therefore Macarthur is not a truly separated man.”

Regarding Mr. Johnson’s statement that GCC won’t participate in Graham’s crusades because Graham won’t separate from Catholics and liberals, the following question could be asked: Billy Graham openly denies Biblical doctrine; why isn’t that the reason GCC won’t participate in his crusades? Mr. Johnson then questions why GCC should be separate from Dr. Mohler. After all, he states, “Al Mohler once participated in a Billy Graham crusade” and “Mohler has a connection to Graham.” Why does Mr. Johnson try to give the impression that Al Mohler “once participated” in a Billy Graham crusade or that Al Mohler has “a connection” to Graham when Dr. Mohler’s participation in the Billy Graham crusade was in the capacity of Chairman?! According to Mr. Johnson, GCC will separate from Graham because he is connected to Catholics and liberals; yet, the GCC elders and pastors, knowing that Dr. Mohler is connected to the United Nations, won’t separate from him. Why?

Dr. Mark Dever

Another man invited by John Macarthur to be a keynote speaker at the GCC Pastors’ Conference is Dr. Mark Dever. Dr. Dever is a director of The Alliance for Confessing Evangelicals and a trustee of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. Dr. Dever serves as the senior pastor of Capitol Hill Baptist Church (CHBC) in Washington, D.C. and is the executive director of 9Marks Ministries. Dr. Al Mohler has praised his fellow Southern Baptist, Dr. Dever, by calling him “One of the most faithful and insightful pastors of our time.”

The CHBC website states that the CHBC is “A Southern Baptist church since its founding… CHBC is in friendly cooperation with the causes of the SBC.” The symbol for CHBC includes a “shield cross.” The “shield cross” is a Masonic symbol. 132.

CHBC is a transformational ministry employing small groups. “We know that ministry is about transforming people and building Godly communities through the gospel.” Once a year CHBC “lay[s] out our overall vision for small groups.” “Small groups…[is] the context for facilitating discipleship relationships.” They expect “small group leaders” to “facilitate discipling relationships” and “be willing to create an open culture, and accept new members.” “We recognize the benefits single-sex groups can have in facilitating a healthy vulnerability and accountability…” Their small group leaders are trained on “how to build community” and “how to raise up new leaders.” “…most of our groups are ‘general community groups’ so that every group looks more like a microcosm of the whole church. We want the culture of the whole to be reflected in the parts.” They want their readers to “catch a vision” for what the next generation of pastors might look like. “Those who only learn ministry in the classroom often do not catch the vision of entrusting the ministry to others.” CHBC “seeks a healthy corporate life for churches across the world.”

CHBC financially supports Access Partners. Mark Dever stated, “CHBC supports Access Partners because they provide us with an important service.” What is this service? The Access Partners website states, “Access Partners develops businesses that facilitate church planting in locations least reached by the gospel.” Access Partners wants people to “consider joining us in this mission of change.”

Communitarianism involves developing a sustainable church-business-government partnership. Access Partners stresses “the importance of business in church planting strategy” because “it became evident that business was increasingly the only way of bringing the gospel to those who had not heard…” Therefore, their church planting teams are now setting up “kingdom businesses.” Access Partners states, “…on the world stage, two events are happening: the need for new access strategies [accessing countries] and business as a means for sustainable international development. This is where our part begins.” Access Partners wants to create businesses “that both contribute to a country’s economy and provide sustainability and credibility for those wishing to advance the gospel in that country.” A missionary team is provided “credibility” by operating a business? What is the nature of this “missionary work” taking place under the cover of business?

“Access Partners functions within a strategy that we and others call Business as Mission (BAM).” Access Partners states, “Like any business, these companies need capital to get started. We are building a network of ‘Kingdom Investors’” who will fund “these ‘Great Commission Companies.’” “In 2004, the Lausanne Movement…writes in their Business as Mission Manifesto that BAM ‘is about business with a Kingdom of God perspective, purpose, and impact…’” Access Partners wants to “implement sustainable [business] models” that will “take into consideration the community’s benefit. We want these businesses to be a blessing to the cities they serve.” “We are blessed to work within a network of like-minded organizations.”

Dr. Dever has written a book entitled “Nine Marks of a Healthy Church.” Though I have not read this book, I have read an article written by Dr. Dever on his website entitled “How to change your church.” The first sentence of this article states, “Change is necessary.” This statement is a declared paradigm shift and basically a declaration of war against God. Dr. Dever goes on to say, “How to change? We must lead our churches to change, and yet we must realize that such change will often be difficult. Even if the change you envision is right, there is still further question of whether the time is right for that change.” The article goes on to say, “With almost any group of several score or larger, some people will resist needed changes. At that point, the group has a crucial decision to make — is it more important that we find some way to continue to include everyone who is presently here, or is it more important that we (as a group) move in a particular direction, even if such a move comes at the cost of certain ones of our number leaving because they do not feel that they can consent to this change?”

Dr. Dever has stated that, in May 1996, he dismissed 256 members of his church. “So we did that and then in our main members’ meeting we actually voted out, out of our 500 members, 256. And that was a big step towards meaningful membership.” 133. These 256 people were dismissed for being inadaptive to his “envisioned change.” Dr. Dever, another friend of John Macarthur, is obviously another change agent within the church.

Churches subverted by the church growth movement want to remove the people who are blocking church transformation. It’s the true Christian who holds to God’s Word and refuses to participate in the small group dialectic process that blocks church transformation. Dismissing true Christians from a church is antithetical to Biblical Christianity.

Final Thoughts

John the Baptist was beheaded for telling the truth about Herod. Not long ago, when John Macarthur was a guest on Larry King Live, incredibly, he stated three times, unsolicited, on national TV, that President George Bush was a Christian! Macarthur said, “Just happens that George Bush is a Christian…Yes, he’s a Christian, so he talks to the Lord about the [concerns] of his life.” This can be read near the bottom of the transcript here.

Why do the producers of Larry King’s show invite John Macarthur on national TV? They want him to take a biblical position opposed by the liberal position of another guest hoping that a compromise can be reached by the audience between the two positions. In other words, Macarthur allows himself to be used in a dialectic process facilitated by Larry King. There are thousands of pastors in the US who understand the gospel. Why do the producers of Larry King Live invite John Macarthur? They know he can be counted on to toe their line on “sensitive” subjects like George Bush’s “Christianity,” Israel (which he seems to fully support), and the war in Iraq (which he supports), etc. A Christian researcher once said that if you ever see a face on TV, then you can be sure that the person behind the face is considered safe and under control.

John Macarthur is a member of several pseudo-Christian orgs, such as the National Religious Broadcasters, Alliance of Confessing Evangelicals and The Council for Biblical Manhood and Womanhood. When I recently called the GCC “Pastor of the Day” to confirm if Macarthur was a member of the National Association of Evangelicals (NAE), he responded, “That depends on where you’re going with this.” I know a Christian who recently emailed GCC to ask if Macarthur was a member of the above mentioned orgs without ever receiving a reply.

This paper has exposed the fact that GCC is fully on board with the Church Growth Movement. This was not an expose of John Macarthur’s doctrine and teachings. There have been several articles written detailing the true teachings as well as the false teachings, compromise, and ecumenism of John Macarthur. One article on Macarthur can be read here.  See also:

JOHN MACARTHUR: MAINSTREAMING PAGANISM IN THE CHURCH

Pastor George Zeller, M.A., Ph.D., of Middletown Bible Church, 349 East Street, Middletown, CT 06457, has compiled a 100+ page book showing what he believes to be Macarthur’s doctrinal errors, which is available for $6.00 plus shipping. (I haven’t read this book.) According to Pastor Zeller, “The book deals mainly with Sonship, his one view nature, Lordship salvation,…and especially his teaching that Christ did not die for all men.” Email: georgezeller@juno.com.

GCC is not only a California non-profit religious corporation, but it is a 501(c) 3 entity. According to the courts, a corporation is “a creature of the state” and the state “is sovereign over the corporation.” Grace Church leaders may say that they depend on the Lord Jesus Christ for protection and that He is their sovereign, but by incorporating, they show that the state is their sovereign, as they must now follow many state regulations; and it is the state that they really depend on for “protection.” For most of US history it was illegal for a church to incorporate. More can be read about this at (http://www.hushmoney.org/). (GCC is a corporation that has an HR department. Christians at GCC are considered “human resources.”)

Like many corporate leaders, John Macarthur is well compensated financially. I don’t know what salary John Macarthur receives from GCC or how much he receives for writing his books and giving talks, etc., but it is in the public record that for the 2006 calendar year he received $123,785 for being President of The Masters College and Seminary 134. and he received $160,363 for being President of Grace To You. 135. That’s $284,148.00, not counting his church salary, book royalties and speaking fees.

Other GCC leaders are also well compensated. For 2006, the Executive Director of Grace To You, Phil Johnson, received $193,430. John Macarthur’s son-in-law, Kory Welch, as Video Production Director at Grace To You received $102,277 and other Grace To You board members received in excess of $100,000.

The leaders of The Masters College and Seminary are also well compensated with their Sr. VP, Richard Mayhue, receiving $199,211 in 2006. And the public record, though limited, shows that their Seminary Professors are also well paid with one receiving $146,882 for 2006 (this was the highest Seminary Professor salary listed).

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“But there were false apostles also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you; whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.” 2Pet 2:1-3

“Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.” Matt 7:13-15

ENDNOTES

129. http://christianresearchnetwork.com/?p=602

130. http://www.bpnews.net/BPnews.asp?ID=29038

131. http://watch.pair.com/database.html#dobson

132. http://images.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&q=shield+cross

133. http://walkingtogether.typepad.com/walking_together/2007/08/a-lost-intervie.html

134. http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2007/956/001/2007-956001907-03c15615-9.pdf

135. http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2007/953/846/2007-953846510-03a148d6-9.pdf

A Facilitator-Led Church Group is the Gate to Hell

A Letter of Warning to Kurt Gebhards’ Hickory Harvest Church, the Harvest Bible Chapel Affiliate in North Carolina: “A Church of Life Groups
 
Dear Hickory Harvest Church Attendee,
 
I’m a fellow Christian that has an interest in your church’s recent transition to the Harvest Bible Chapel model.  If you’d be kind enough to indulge me, then I’d like to pose some questions to you regarding your church transition:  Have you felt that something isn’t quite right regarding your transition to the Harvest Bible Chapel ministry model?  Do you get the feeling that something is wrong with this transition biblically, but you can’t quite put your finger on it?  Do you feel that you are now being slowly led astray from God’s biblical will?  Do you get the feeling that somehow your church is being used to further an unbiblical agenda (an agenda for which you are footing the bill)?  Have you felt that your new pastor may be hiding something?  Have you felt that if there was a way to go back and NOT vote to move forward with the Harvest transition you would?  If you answered in the affirmative, then please allow me to try to clarify for you what is now happening to your church since the Harvest Bible Chapel takeover.  I’ll try make it brief and to the point and rather than copy and paste, I’ll place several links where you can read more if you so desire.
 
“Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 1 John 4:1
 
“For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.”  II Corinthians 11:13-15
 
“And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage.” Galatians 2:4
 
“For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.” Acts 20:29-30
 
As you know, your church is now being conformed to the Harvest Bible Fellowship organizational model.  The basis of this organizational model are facilitator-led groups.  At Harvest Bible Fellowship affiliate churches these facilitator-led groups are called “Life Groups.”  Because your church’s new leadership has recently “launched” Life Groups and because their importance has been stressed, I’d like to spend time explaining what these groups are in order that you’ll understand that Christians should never participate in them and that they have no place in the church of Jesus Christ.
 
As you know, all church attendees are being strongly encouraged, if not required, to participate in Life Groups.  All Life Groups have a leader who functions as a facilitator as well as an apprentice leader who will one day leave to start his own Life Group once he has learned group facilitation skills.
 
All Life Group participants will be held “accountable” to their Life Group leader who will be accountable to Flock Leaders who will be accountable to the church pastors who will be accountable to the church elders and so forth up the line.  In this manner, all Life Group participants will be watched and monitored and can be controlled from the top.  Five hundred members of a traditional church can’t be controlled, but those 500 members can easily be controlled if placed into 50 facilitator-led groups which are overseen by a hierarchy of leaders.  “Accountability” is a word that will be frequently used by your new church leaders.  But they aren’t referring to your accountability to God.  Participation in “Life Groups” will shift your accountability from God to your group leader, group vision, and church leadership.
 
As stated, all “Life Group” leaders function as group facilitators.  A facilitator is a term used in communist mind control.  A facilitator is also known as a change agent.  One researcher has stated that the actual socio-psychological name for a facilitator is a heresiarch (one who practices heresy).  A group facilitator is often called a group “leader” who acquires group facilitation skills through “leadership training” or “leadership development.”
 
A facilitator is not a traditional bible teacher.  He won’t preach and teach God’s word.  Instead, he will facilitate a dialogue to group consensus (what all in the group can agree upon and feel good about) through the use of questioning.  This is also called critical thinking (questioning authority).  The model social psychologists used to determine how a group facilitator should function was Satan.  They studied how Satan was able to get Eve to disobey God in the garden by questioning authority (“Hath God said?”) and through dialogue.
 
A facilitator-led group is also called a Soviet and a Marxist dialectic session.  It is also sometimes called an “accountability group,” “consensus group,” and an “encounter group.”  These groups were developed by social-psychologists (all of whom were Marxists).  The dynamics of these groups were refined in social laboratories in the US called the National Training Labs which are Marxist incubators (they still exist today).
 
The facilitator-led group employs a “dialectic process.”  The dialectic process is designed to synthesize opposites (thesis-antithesis, believer-unbeliever) through dialogue.  This process was developed by Hegel, who was a Kabbalist.  The purpose of this group process is to change and transform (brainwash) the minds of all the group participants AWAY from faith in and obedience to authority (God) and toward a socialist religion based on human relationships (humanism).
 
Facilitation means to make change easy and a facilitator is called a change agent because his job is to change the way people think from obedience to God and higher authority to a way of thinking that compromises God for group goals and human relationship building.  Change agents refer to changing THE WAY people think as a “paradigm shift.”   Organizations that employ facilitator-led groups will make frequent references to change and transformation.  It’s important to know that facilitators and change agents in the church are always Satan’s agents; for God said, “For I am the Lord, I change not” and “My son, fear thou the LORD and the king: and meddle not with them that are given to change. For their calamity shall rise suddenly; and who knoweth the ruin of them both?” Prov. 24:21-2
 
Facilitator-led groups are the basis for the “Church Growth” movement.  Rick Warren’s Purpose Driven Church is part of this movement.  The purpose of the church growth movement is to transform Christians and churches from service to God to service to the community (to affect social change in the community).  Social psychologists want to make “community” the primary unit of society above the family unit which must be destroyed. This is why church facilitators make statements like “walk with Christ in community.”  To learn more about the church growth movement click here.
 
Because all at Hickory Harvest will be required to participate in these groups, scroll down the article linked above to “Church Transformation and the Dialectic Process” and “Facilitators, Small Groups and Brainwashing” in order to learn more about these groups and how they function and to fully understand that all who participate in these groups will lose their faith in God.
 
It should be noted as well that Facilitator-led groups have their origin in the occult Kabbalah.  Few realize that participation in a facilitator-led group invokes a demon that will place the group participants in bondage.  Read “How Small Church Groups Invoke Demons.”
 
Because small group participants are required to confess their sins regularly to each other (which is unbiblical) and to be “transparent” and “authentic,” the church leaders will be aware of the most intimate details of your life; they will also know who are resisting the “process” and who are threats to their control.  Confessing sins and revealing intimate secrets to your “Life Group” can also potentially open the group participant to blackmail.
 
 
“Sins, as defined by the group, are to be confessed either to a personal monitor or publicly to the group. There is no confidentiality; members’ “sins,” “attitudes,” and “faults” are discussed and exploited by the leaders. Even if not obviously promoted by the group, information is collected (usually automatically without set guidelines for collection) and fed to leadership. Shameful past events may then be exploited to manipulate individual compliance or as evidence for disciplinary actions. This information is also exploited by members who leave the group.”
 
Harvest Bible Chapel and their affiliate churches are all apostate churches on board with the satanic church growth agenda.  I think it’s fair to say that your church couldn’t have fallen prey to this satanic takeover had it not already been on a long slide into apostasy.  For example, I am aware that one man in your church leadership, Scott Jablonski, was fully dedicated to Rick Warren’s Purpose Driven agenda even before your transition to a Harvest affiliate.
 
The reason why I’m aware of and interested in your church is because I have followed Kurt Gebhards from his time at John Macarthur’s Grace Community Church.  Kurt Gebhards is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.  While at Grace Church, he was the pastor of a singles ministry called The Foundry.  This ministry was based on Rick Warren’s Purpose Driven model (though Gebhards and the Grace Church leadership will deny this).  The “Life Groups” at The Foundry were called “Core Groups.”  To read about The Foundry ministry click here.
 
Pastor John Coleman and Dr. Robert Klenck, a foremost Christian authority on the Purpose Driven/Church Growth movement, broadcasted publicly on their radio show, “RAM Radio Live” (Reformation Apologetics Minstry), four years ago, that the ministry Kurt Gebhards was pastoring at John Macarthur’s Grace Community Church was following the Purpose Driven model.  Upon viewing this ministries since deleted webpages, Dr. Klenck stated: “Not only is it [the Purpose Driven model] there [at The Foundry], but it is going at full speed.”
 
James Sundquist, author of “Who’s Driving The Purpose Driven Church,” has also confirmed the presence of the Purpose Driven Church model at Kurt Gebhards’ The Foundry.  Upon viewing the same webpages, Mr. Sundquist stated: “I do see many transformation philosophies that echo Rick Warren or hybrid it…PD [Purpose Driven] movement has infiltrated Grace Church under a different name or disguise…[ie., brought in through stealth].”

Kurt Gebhards admits in his online resume that he was asked to enter ministries at John Macarthur’s Grace Church as a vision casting “agent of change.”  A change agent in the church is a facilitator and is always an agent for Satan.  Church facilitators will engage in “vision casting.”  They will encourage their congregation to “catch their vision.”  Vision casting is unbiblical and anyone who casts or catches a vision is tapping into the demonic realm.   You can read where Kurt Gebhards admits to being a vision casting “agent of change” on page 4 under “ministry passions” here.
 
To read the entire article about Kurt Gebhards, the change agent, then please go here.
 
If you’d like to hear audios about John Macarthur’s Purpose Driven ministries and the fact that he can’t recall his conversion to Christ, then click here.
 
The director of operations at Harvest Bible Fellowship and your new church elder is Mr. Bill Molinari.  Mr. Molinari is also a wolf in sheep’s clothing who is on board with the satanic church growth movement. Mr. Molinari is the chairman of the board of Leadership Resources International (LRI) as well as being a board member of John Macarthur’s international ministry which is a “church growth” org that partners with foreign governments.  Churches partnering with governments is in keeping with the communitarian agenda.  To read more about your new church elder, Mr. Bill  Molinari, and LRI scroll down to the section on Bill Molinari here.
 
By the way, it may be of interest that Kurt Gebhards and Bill Molinari both have backgrounds in finance.  Kurt Gebhards graduated from Liberty University with a degree in Economics and Bill Molinari was the President of a large mutual fund company (Van Kampen funds) for 21 years.
 
The presence of the facilitator-led group organizational model can be known not only by its structure, but by its particular buzzwords.  I have listened to Craig Steiner’s 4 part “Small Group Leadership Training” series on your church’s resources page.  Mr. Steiner is a trained facilitator.  Please allow me to repeat some of Mr. Steiner’s quotes from his talks to your church members that are indicative of this satanic infiltration and that should give you notice that something is very wrong (unbiblical) with what he is teaching. (I will place Mr. Steiner’s words in quotations and in red and my comments in parentheses.)
 
From Part 1: Mr. Steiner said, “cast a vision for healthy small groups” (This quote is taken directly from Rick Warren’s Purpose Driven model.  Vision Casting is from Marxism and taps into the occult.  In “church growth,” a “healthy” church is a church in which there are no Christians who obey God.  In a “healthy church,” all will have been transformed to compromise God for the group goals and the group vision.);  “walking with Christ in community” (Christians are not to be holy and set apart, but are to be synthesized into community. To gain respect in the eyes of the community is to compromise God.);  “walking with Christ implies change”  “small groups are discussion-based learning—not someone lecturing the whole group” (The small group leader doesn’t teach in a didactic manner which is biblical, but rather in a dialectic manner.  God’s word is to be preached and teached—not dialogued to consensus.  A traditional bible study is scripturally-based and not discussion-based.);  “fellowship in the biblical sense is a deep community”  “building relationships” (Facilitators emphasize the building of human relationships because they want you to be bonded to the group through peer pressure where the fear of man will override your fear of God causing you to compromise God.)
 
From Part 2: “ …in addition to the small group facilitator” (Mr. Steiner is admitting at 41:50 that the Life Group leaders are facilitators);  “a small group leader is one who facilitates a discussion in a meaningful direction through the use of questions” (This is an unbiblical dialectic method—it’s based on the method Satan used to get Eve to disobey God in the garden.) “small group leaders shouldn’t lecture people”  (The facilitator won’t teach or preach from the bible. Group dialogue must be facilitated if everyone is to freely experience group life [communism] and group think [socialism]);  “Jesus was a master of asking questions—wasn’t He?”  (Steiner is equating Jesus, the master teacher, with Satan, the master facilitator.  Jesus never questioned God’s authority and He never asked anyone what they thought or felt about God’s word, nor did He dialogue God’s word.  He preached and teached.);  “A key to leading dynamic discussion is to ask good questions” (The facilitator does this to find out your position and to see how you think so that you can be manipulated. Whoever decides what questions to be asked controls the answers as well.);  Steiner wants the facilitator to ask the group member questions like, “What do you think the text means?” so that “everyone has had an opportunity to offer what they think”  (These kinds of questions, which have no place in a bible study, cause the group members to open up and share so that the facilitator can dialogue all opinions to a pre-determined consensus. ); Mr. Steiner says that the facilitator should be asking “open-ended questions.” (In the dialectic process, the facilitator asks open-ended questions [what, how and why] and not closed questions [requiring a yes or no answer] in order to bypass the absolutes of God’s word.) “It is not about what people have learned, but about who people are becoming” (The facilitator doesn’t want to inculcate knowledge “traditional teaching”, but wants to change your behavior and way of thinking in conformity to group goals);  “Be known as a church of authentic people” and “I’d like to know the real you” (Steiner wants people who are willing to reveal their inner most thoughts and feelings to the group so that they can be better manipulated);  “We are all interconnected and part of the body” (A basis of church growth is called General Systems Theory.  It is similar to Eastern philosophy.  It states that people only have value as part of an organization—as a cog in a machine.)
 
From Part 3: “Opening up to each other involves informing others of your needs” (reveal your “felt needs” so that you can be manipulated);  “We need to be doing life on life” (Where does God command this?);  Steiner encourages you to observe your fellow group member and to say, “I’ve noticed that you don’t spend enough time with your wife and kids”  (A father has God-given authority to rule his family.  No man has the right to question that authority.  The church facilitators through the group dialectic process will negate all God given authority because this authority hinders human relationship building.);  “You need to get to that transparent level where you’re sharing personal feelings and fears” (The group dialectic process often begins with ice-breaker exercises to get people thinking with feelings so that they can be changed more easily);  “People are able to be vulnerable”  Steiner and facilitators want church members making frequent prayer requests. “How can we pray for you next week” (Through Jesus Christ we can all pray directly to our Heavenly Father.  Prayer requests are a way the church leadership can shift dependence on God to dependence on the group.  Prayer requests are also a way that the leadership will know your personal business.)
 
From Part 4: This part contains an amazingly candid admission from Steiner: “Our men’s and women’s and student ministry is a TRICK to get them into small groups” (So he is admitting that these ministries aren’t for the purpose of serving Jesus Christ.  In fact, the entire agenda at Harvest Bible Fellowship is a satanic trick);  “the purpose of small groups is to make disciples”  (“to make disciples” means to transform group members so that they can become change agent-facilitators who will form their own groups);  “experience the level of community you’ve experienced”  “great way to cast that vision” (A man made vision [what can be] is antithetical to God’s word [what is]);  “So the DNA is throughout everything” (These facilitator-run churches replicate like cells that all have the same DNA.  It is Satan’s DNA.)
 
Kurt Gebhards is also a change agent-facilitator.  The following quotes in red are from his recent sermons regarding the urgent need to usher the Hickory Harvest congregation into “Life Groups”:
 
From Life Groups 1 “The Next Big Thing”: Gebhards said, “I don’t want to sell you anything you are not in the market for” (Are you in the market to be brainwashed and to lose your eternal soul? The buyer here had better beware.);  “Life Groups is not one of our ministries at Hickory Harvest.  Life Groups IS our ministry at Hickory Harvest.  We ARE a church of Life Groups.” (Hickory Harvest is being conformed to a “cell church” model.  This model is not unlike a militia structure.);  “Our life groups will be life changing agents” (Gebhards is telling the truth here.  Life Groups will change the way the group members think–from an obedience to God way of thinking to a human relationship building way of thinking.);  Gebhards says that he has served in past ministries where hundreds of Christians “have had lives radically altered by the dynamics of Life Groups”  “You need to open up and be vulnerable to others.”  “I don’t get a bonus in Heaven for being in a Life Group”  (How true!  Your Life Group is the gate to Hell.)
 
From Life Groups 2 “Our Hospital for Life”: “Our heartbeat is that we would all participate in Life Groups.” (All must participate in this change program.  No child left behind.  Even your children will be required to be in a group);  “Life Groups are intended to be a hospital that facilitates healing and life…” (They lead to eternal death.);  “God’s word is to change us” (Facilitators seldom mention that God’s word judges and divides);  “The word of God is the most life-transforming dynamic in this universe” (I’ve noticed that Gebhards often uses the word “dynamic.”  Facilitators often use this word because it means change.);  “Be a doer of the word of God, so be in a Life Group” (Being a doer of God’s word means to STAND ALONE for Jesus Christ.)
 
From Life Groups 3 “Our Home of Love”: “We are a church of Life Groups”  “These are not your father’s small groups” (Gebhards is saying that Life Groups aren’t a traditional bible study with a leader that preached and teached God’s word [didactic teaching].  Life groups are dialectic, mind changing sessions.);  “Life Groups are a life changing environment” (Facilitator-led groups were developed to an extent by Kurt Lewin who headed the National Training Labs.  Lewin understood that it’s easier to change people’s way of thinking and behavior [to brainwash] in a group setting than to change them individually [like on Freud’s couch]);  “Unity and community in the body of Christ”  (“Unity and community” is the slogan for worldwide socialism.  Facilitators want church member unity at the expense of facts and truth.);  “Life Groups were born to multiply”  (Get as many community members as possible into groups for mind control.  The plan is “to connect the entire planet to healthy small groups.”);  “All living things exist to reproduce” (Cancer cells also reproduce);  “We want to be invested in the 10 minute strategy” (Be social and bring others into the groups.  Do you want to stop socialism in the church?  Become anti-social by adhering to God’s word in all things without compromise.)
 
From Life Groups 4 “Our Sanctuary in Holiness”: “Lives being changed for the glory of God” (Facilitators are changing the way you think.  One day the loyalty of the group to its leader will be transferred to the Anti-Christ);  “Recognize your spiritual vulnerability” “Open your heart” “Share and open up with the body” (So your feelings can be heard and dialogued to consensus—so that you can be manipulated.);  “Step out in risk”  (The dialectical process requires a “risk free” and “non hostile” environment where everyone can feel free enough to confess their own beliefs and values within the group setting without fear of reprisal.);  “Obey the command to confess sin to one another”  “In Life Groups you’ll be expected to confess your sin”  “Open your heart and confess your sins to each other regularly just as scripture commands you to do” “Come every week to confess your sin” (Does God command Christians to regularly confess sins to one another?  Absolutely not!  Scripture is to be compared with scripture.  In James 5:16, Christians are told to “confess your faults one to another…”  The modern corrupt bible versions (NASB, NIV) translate this to “confess your sins one to another.”  Confessing sin to each other is to be done rarely and only when the need arises.  As Christians we are to confess our sins regularly to God and to ask for His forgiveness.  Facilitators want you to confess regularly to men because confession is an important component in mind control.  Confession is also utilized by the Catholic Church for the same purpose.  Facilitators know that TO WHOM YOU CONFESS IS TO WHOM YOU SUBORDINATE YOURSELF.  Yes, there are perhaps times when a Christian may have a need to confess to his brother, but facilitators want you confessing regularly in order that you subordinate yourselves to the Life Group and not to God.);  “Talk about deepest hurts with the Flock Leader”  (Besides being unbiblical [for we are commanded to deny ourselves], will your deepest hurts be kept in confidence?)
 
From Life Groups 5 “Our Greenhouse of Growth”: “We are going to be an equipping church”  “We are called as leaders to equip you”  (“Equipping” comes from Rick Warren’s PEACE plan.  The “E” stands for “equip leaders.”  It means to train them in facilitation skills.);  “God expects every Christian to be discipling and mentoring others”  (Really? Chapter? Verse?  Facilitators want to reproduce change agents who will engage others in a facilitated dialogue.);  “money back guarantee associated with Life Groups–if you don’t change we’ll give you your money back”  “Join a Life Group—not to be left to the immaturity of a solitary Christian”  (Church change agents like Rick Warren are constantly emphasizing that “there are no lone saints.”  This is because a lone saint who holds to God’s word without compromise and independent of others is a hindrance to and is blocking to a facilitated unity and community [Satan’s communitarian one-world agenda].  John the Baptist was a lone saint.  Several of the apostles died alone in their service to Christ.  The true agenda of Christianity is to stand alone for Jesus Christ.  If by God’s grace you can find a few like-minded Christian friends, then that is a blessing.  But we aren’t called to assemble in an apostate church of facilitator-led groups.  We are all solitary Christians.  THERE WILL BE NO GROUP GRADE ON JUDGMENT DAY.
 
Kurt Gebhards is no true Christian and the language he employs in these talks is not from Holy Scripture.  It is the language of social change, transformation, and revolution.  It is the same language employed by social-psychologists, Marxists, socialists, and Communitarians the world over.  His words aren’t the Word of God that leads to life, but the words of Satan and his change agents and facilitators that leads to eternal death.  Kurt Gebhards and the Hickory Harvest leadership want you in Life Groups.  Life Groups are the gate to Hell and will be “Eternal Death Groups” for all who participate in them.
 
I pray that the true Christians at Hickory Harvest wake up; for a dialectical trap (Life Groups) has been set for you: a trap laid by Satan’s facilitators and change agents (the pastors and elders at Hickory Harvest) and concealed with Christian terminology.  Let this be a word of warning to those who may be seduced into this trap and a word of rescue for those who have already fallen into this trap.
 
If you know someone else at Hickory Harvest who would find this letter of interest, please feel free to forward this as I probably did miss quite a few of your attendees.
 
“Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.” 1 Thess. 5:21
 
“But he that is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.” 1 Cor 2:15
 
“And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.”  Ephesians 5:11-12
 
For Jesus Christ and His Church,
 
Bob Johnson
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I have exchanged emails with Jon Krick, the Associate Pastor at Hickory Harvest Church regarding the Hickory Harvest Life Groups.  Pastor Krick has told me falsely that the Hickory Harvest “Life Groups” are not facilitator-led groups.
 
John Macarthur wrote a letter (see page 8) recommending Kurt Gebhards to Hickory Church.  I’ve been told that John Macarthur is “good friends” with James MacDonald and that he attends James Macdonald’s “Straight Up Conference“. Another friend of John Macarthur, Al Mohler, has also attended James MacDonald’s Straight Up Conference.
 
The Harvest Bible Fellowship Training Center trains seminary graduates to “launch” a “healthy church plant” based on the Harvest “Church of Life Groups” model.  Who is currently attending this 8 month long training program?  I’m told that attendance includes recent graduates from John Macarthur’s The Master’s Seminary (TMS)!  Upon conclusion of this training, these TMS graduates will be obligated to plant “churches of facilitator-led groups.”  Click here to read “John Macarthur and The Master’s Seminary Graduates Support James MacDonald’s Network of Facilitator-led Churches.”      

Unholy Alliance: John Macarthur’s The Master’s College Long-Term Partnership with the American Enterprise Institute

A Very Unholy Alliance: John Macarthur’s The Master’s College Sponsors a Joint Forum and Enters a Long-Term Partnership with the American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research

The intent of this article is to prove John Macarthur is allied with organizations dedicated to building Satan’s New World Order (see John Macarthur’s Transformational, Church Growth, Purpose-Driven Church).  This article could be very lengthy if I chose to research and detail fully the agenda of the American Enterprise Institute, the Brookings Institute, and Laissez-faire economics–so I won’t.

The Forum
 
On November 10, 2010, The Master’s College sponsored and co-hosted a forum with the American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research (AEI). Acording to The Masters College website, “The Master’s College joined with the respected American Enterprise Institute (AEI) from Washington, D.C. to co-host its first joint forum. The event featured a discussion with Dr. Arthur Brooks, president of AEI, and Dr. John MacArthur, president of The Master’s College. The event was moderated by Jack Cox, Vice President of Advancement. This event is part of a new initiative focusing on Biblical values and economics.”

Featured Speakers at The Master’s College-AIE Forum

Dr. John Macarthur: Troubling facts about John Macarthur include the following: His church’s principal source of funding, The Believers Foundation, is funded and directed by Lorena Jaeb, who was and may still be a Governor of the Council for National Policy, which is considered to be a Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) front org.  John Macarthur’s operations, including The Master’s College, receive approximately $2,000,000 annually from The Believers Foundation.
 
“According to Dr. Quigley, the Council on Foreign Relations is one of several front organizations set up by the network’s inner circle to advance its schemes. The ultimate goal: a New World Order.” (David Rockefeller is the Honorary Chairman of the CFR.) (Source)
 
Dr. Arthur Brooks: According to his Wikipedia bio, Brooks, in addition to being the President of AEI, is a Roman Catholic who “[pursued] a doctorate at the Frederick S. Pardee RAND Graduate School, a public policy program located at the RAND Corporation, where he was also a doctoral fellow. After receiving his PhD in policy analysis in 1998, Brooks continued to be affiliated with RAND.”  Click here to see that Dr Arthur Brooks has also been invited to speak at The Council for National Policy.
 
Dr. Brooks also promotes Mormonism.  Speaking at BYU on February 24, 2009, Dr. Brooks promoted Mormonism and quoted from the Book of Mormon.  Click here to the video link on the BYU website to view Dr. Brooks’ BYU speech.
 
Jack Cox: Master’s College Vice President of Advancement; founded The Communications Institute in 2003 as he presently serves as the Institute’s President and Chief Executive Officer.  Board members of the Communications Institute include:
 
Joseph P. Kalt
Professor of International Political Economy
John F. Kennedy School of Government
Harvard University
Ford Foundation 
 
Michael D. Rich
Executive Vice President
RAND Corporation

According to Jack Cox’s bio on the Communications Institute’s website:
 
“Mr. Cox founded and served for 27 years as President/CEO and founder of the Foundation for American Communications (FACS), an international nonprofit institution…The foundation’s educational programs…were funded by such diverse organizations as the Ford FoundationRockfeller FoundationKellogg Foundation, the New York TimesLos Angeles Times, NBC, CNN, ABC, and nearly every major newspaper group in the United States…Graduates of FACS programs went on to serve as White House Correspondents and anchors for network television news.”

American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research

The American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research is a private, not-for-profit institution dedicated to research and education on issues of governance, international relations, economics, and social welfare. (About AEI)

Oddly enough, but not for those who understand how the dialectic process is employed in order to synthesize opposing positions into a new or “third way“, the “right wing” American Enterprise Institute (AEI) is allied with the “left wing,” Brookings Institution.  This “joint venture” is called “The American Enterprise Institute-Brookings Joint Center for Regulatory Studies.” “This joint venture between the American Enterprise Institute and the Brookings Institution is dedicated to studying federal regulatory policy.” (Source)
 
The Brookings Institute

Since John Macarthur’s college is co-hosting a joint forum with AEI which is allied with the Brookings Institute, let’s take a brief glance at Brookings.
 
“The Brookings Institution is a nonprofit public policy organization based in Washington, D.C…Brookings conducts research and education in the social sciences, primarily in economics, metropolitan policy, governance, foreign policy, and global economy and development.”
 
In 1952, Robert Calkins succeeded Moulton as president of the Brookings Institution. He secured grants from the Rockefeller Foundation and the Ford Foundation that put the Institution on a strong financial basis
 
Policy Influence: Brookings traces its history back to 1916 and has contributed to the creation of the United Nations…”  “Along with the American Enterprise Institute and The Heritage Foundation, Brookings is generally considered one of the three most influential policy institutes in the U.S.”
 
In 1977, Time Magazine described it as the “nation’s pre-eminent liberal think tank.” (Brookings Institution)
 
The Brookings Institution and other foundations originated the monetary programs implemented by the Federal Reserve System to destroy the American farmer, a replay of the Soviet tragedy in Russia, with one proviso that the farmer will be allowed to survive if he becomes a slave worker of the giant trusts.  (Source)
 
Brookings Institution Dedicates its work to what it calls a “national agenda.” Wrote President Hoover’s program, President Roosevelt’s “New Deal”, the Kennedy Administration’s “New Frontiers” program (deviation from it may have cost John F. Kennedy his life), and President Johnson’s “Great Society.” Brookings has been telling the United States Government how to conduct its affairs for the past 70 years and is still doing so. (Source)

The RAND Corporation

Since Dr. Arthur Brooks, the President of AEI, is closely affiliated with the RAND Corporation, and since a board member of Jack Cox’s Communications Institute is an Executive Vice President of the RAND Corporation, let’s read an excerpt about RAND from “Tavistock: The Best Kept Secret in America.”
 
“Without a doubt, RAND is THE think tank most beholden to Tavistock Institute and certainly the RIIA’s [The Royal Institute for International Affairs transmits orders to the CFR] most prestigious vehicle for control of United States policies at every level. Specific RAND policies that became operative include our ICBM program, prime analyses for U.S. foreign policy making, instigator of space programs, U.S. nuclear policies, corporate analyses, hundreds of projects for the military, the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in relation to the use of mind altering drugs like peyote, LSD (the covert MK-ULTRA operation which lasted for 20 years).”
 
[Editor, Watch Unto Prayer note: The founder of the Rand Corporation, Herman Kahn, also founded the Hudson Institute in 1961. In Educating for the New World Order, B.K. Eakman tells of a training manual for “change agents” developed for the U.S. government by Rand Corporation: “. . . a how-to manual with a 1971 U.S. Office of Education contract number on it entitled ‘Training for Change Agents‘; seven volumes of ‘change agent studies‘ commissioned by the U.S. Office of Education to the Rand Corporation in 1973-74; scores of other papers submitted by behaviorist researchers who had obtained grants from the U.S. Office of Education for the purpose of exploring ways to ‘freeze’ and ‘unfreeze’ values, ‘to implement change,’ and to turn potentially hostile groups and committees into acquiescent, rubber-stamp bodies by means of such strategies as the ‘Delphi Technique.'” (p. 118)]
 
Some of RAND’s clients include:
 
American Telephone and Telegraph Company (AT&T)
Chase Manhattan Bank
International Business Machines (IBM)
National Science Foundation
Republican Party
TRW
U.S. Air Force
U.S. Department of Health
U.S. Department of Energy
 
There are literally THOUSANDS of highly important companies, government institutions and organizations that make use of RANDS’s services. To list them all would be impossible. Among RAND’s specialities is a study group that predicts the timing and the direction of a thermonuclear war, plus working out the many scenarios based upon its findings. RAND was once accused of being commissioned by the USSR to work out terms of surrender of the United States Government, an accusation that went all the way to the United States Senate, where it was taken up by Senator Symington and subsequently fell victim to scorn poured out by the establishment press. BRAINWASHING remains the primary function of RAND.”
 
Commentary Regarding The Masters College-American Enterprise Institute Forum 

In an article published on John Macarthur’s The Master’s College website [This webpage has been deleted–to view this article click here] from the Master’s News Service entitled, “Meeting America’s Economic Challenges: Christianity, Values and Public Policy” and under the subtitle, “The Master’s College: Forging a New Approach“: “Dr. Mark Tatlock, The Master’s College Provost and Senior Vice President, saw the forum as important step for the college…”
 
“The Master’s College in Santa Clarita, California teamed up to present the academic forum with a nationally renowned think tank, The American Enterprise Institute (AEI) based in Washington, D.C.”
 
According to Jack Cox, “He believes the forum represents an important step in the growth of The Master’s College as a voice of biblical reason on the events shaping the nation and the world.”
 
“This first-ever joint forum is part of a new Master’s College initiative on biblical values and the economy.”
 
“Forum attendees included members of the state legislature, judges, representatives from the County of Los Angeles as well as church and business leaders. They concluded the forum by asking questions on such issues such as…reformation of the U.S. court system [to Talmudic Law?]” [Peter Drucker’s communitarian system, i.e. New World Order, demands the merger of the 3 sectors of society: government, business, and social (the churches).  We can see this merger on display during this forum at Macarthur’s “Christian” college. (see What is the Church Growth Movement?)]
 
“Cox said the college is already planning more efforts to bring biblical truth to bear on the issues of our time, in part through the development of the Master’s Institute on Public Issues. The school is looking at the next series of initiatives, which the college hopes to announce in the coming months that will serve both our students and society.”
 
Note: 11/20/13–The Master’s College has now removed every trace of this new “Master’s Institute on Public Issues” from its website and it now only looks like there was a single forum, not a long-term partnership formed with AEI. This website and one other are the only places on the internet that mention “The Master’s Institute on Public Issues” as a permanent entity within The Master’s College. 
 
“Keynote speakers Dr. John MacArthur, President of The Master’s College and Brooks, President and CEO of AEI addressed the role of Christianity and a Christian worldview in shaping the future of public policy in the U.S.”
 
“MacArthur, who is best known for his worldwide Grace to You radio-teaching ministry, said, ‘You don’t find socialism anywhere in Scripture…God has granted us the freedom to become everything we can become. The world is packed with riches but they must be mined out. This has always been the enterprise of man.'”  Is John Macarthur correct?  Has God granted Christians the freedom to “become everything we can become” and to “mine out the world’s riches?”  To “be all you can be” is New Age “possibility thinking” from the Human Potential Movement promoted by people like Robert Schuller.  And contrary to John Macarthur’s claims, God demands that Christians “deny themselves and pick up their crosses daily.”
 
MacArthur said,”…the Bible supports free enterprise…”  Another name for the free enterprise economy is laissez faire economics.
 
[Note: “The Mont Pelerin Society was founded in 1947 in Mont Pelerin, Switzerland by Friedrich von Hayek to oppose socialism and advocate for laissez-faire capitalism and the free market, unencumbered by government regulation. Laissez faire (Fr.) means “let them do as they will”. Classical liberalism, the philosophy upon which von Hayek based the Mont Pelerin Society, does not mean ‘liberal’ in the current sense of the word, but its exact opposite; economic ‘liberalism’ refers to public sector (government) permissiveness toward the private sector (business).”  (Watch Unto Prayer)
 
John Macarthur’s church, along with thousands of churches in the US, is being conformed to Peter Drucker’s organizational model. (Drucker was a student of the Kabbalah).  “Regular guests of the Druckers included the economists Schumpeter, Hayek and Mises, with whom Drucker’s father had professional relations…”
 
“What Dr. MacArthur and Dr. Brooks articulated is a fourth approach which rests totally on Scripture. God wants us involved in society as servants [are Christians called to serve society?]. We should be involved, but based on biblical principles and not political ones.”  “The Master’s College, home to more than 1,200 undergraduate and graduate students across more than 50 majors, is poised to play an important role
 
According to the comments made during TMC-AEI Forum, one can conclude that John Macarthur’s The Master’s College through the development of the Master’s Institute on Public Issues is taking “an important step” and “forging a new approach” by “co-hosting forums” with AEI in order to discuss the “role of Christians” in “shaping the future of public policy in the US.”  It seems Macarthur is now training his Master’s College students to become change agent/facilitators in order to affect social change.

American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research (AEI) Leadership  
 
According to Watch Unto Prayer, “AEI is supported by NY Banks, Big Oil, CFR and CIA assets.”  Lilly Endowment has given millions to the AEI’s [American Enterprise Institute] Center for the study of Government Regulation (Eli Lilly is the manufacturer of Prozac).
 
Let’s now list some of the AEI leadership along with their extraordinary NWO/Satanic affiliations. You will see these AEI affiliations include the Bilderbergers, the World Bank (its former president), the Federal Reserve System (its former Governor), the CFR, the Trilateral Commission, and the UN among others.

AEI Board of Trustees (selective listing)
 
Bruce KovnerCFR; Chairman, Caxton Associates, LP
Richard B. CheneyCFR
Harvey Golub–Retired Chairman, American Express Company [CFR affiliate]
John A. Luke Jr.–CFR
Daniel A D’Aniello–Co-founder and Managing Director–Carlyle Group  

AEI Scholars and Fellows (selective listing) 

John R. BoltonCFR; Senior Fellow, AEI; Experience–U.S. Permanent Representative to the United NationsUnited States Mission to the United Nations, 2005-2006; Senior Vice President, AEI, 1997-2001
Alex BrillCFR
Lynn V Cheney
Nicholas EberstadtCFRConsultant, World Bank; M.Sc., London School of Economics
Kevin A. Hassett –Economist, 1992-95, Division of Research and Statistics, Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
Irving Kristol (1920-2009)–Senior Fellow Emeritus AEI; CFR; In July 2002, he received from President George W. Bush the Medal of Freedom, the nation’s highest civilian honor.
Lawrence B. LindseyGovernor, Federal Reserve System, 1991-97
John H. MakinCFR; Visiting Scholar, Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco, 1977Fellow, Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, 1968-69
Charles MurrayBilderberger; W. H. Brady Scholar; His 1994 New York Times bestseller, The Bell Curve (Free Press, 1994), was a publication advancing the theory of the intellectual inferiority of the black race.
Michael Novak–the 1994 recipient of the Templeton Prize for Progress in Religion. He has been an emissary to the United Nations Human Rights Commission and to the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe; •U.S. Ambassador, United Nations Human Rights Commission in Geneva, 1981, 1982signed Evangelicals and Catholics Together Document.
Norman J. OrnsteinCFR
Perle, Richard N., Resident Fellow, AEI; Trilateral CommissionBilderberger; (go to the following link and see that Perle is a member of the Steering Committee of the Bilderberg Meetings http://bilderbergmeetings.org/governance.htm); Perle has on occasion been accused of being an Israeli agent of influence. It has been reported that, while he was working for Jackson, “An FBI summary of a 1970 wiretap recorded Perle discussing classified information with someone at the Israeli embassy,” writes Paul Findley (They Dare To Speak Out, Chicago, Ill, Lawrence Hill Books 1989); As a member of the Cambridge, Massachusetts-based consulting firm Monitor Group, Perle was an advisor to Libyan dictator Muammar al-Gaddafi in 2006.
Marc A. Thiessen–Visiting Fellow; CFR; Visiting Fellow, Hoover Institution, 2009-2010
Peter J. WallisonCFRSpecial Assistant to Governor Nelson A. Rockefeller; Counsel during Rockefeller’s Vice Presidency, 1972-76
Paul Wolfowitz–Visiting Scholar; CFRPresident, World Bank Group, 2005-2007
Alex J. Pollock–Resident Fellow; Visiting Scholar, Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis, 1991

Note: Recently I spoke with Pastor Darrell Beddoe, a member of the board of directors of The Master’s College. I called to ask him why TMC, a supposedly Christian College, would team up with an org like AEI.  Pastor Beddoe defended the AEI as “biblical” and after I told him their leadership was affiliated with NWO orgs such as the Bilderbergers, Federal Reserve, CFR, Trilateral Commission, London School of Economics, etc., he replied, “I’ve heard these theories for years and I don’t want a discussion with you” as he hung up the phone.

Note: The logo for The Masters College is a Shield Cross, a masonic symbol.  To see masonic/occult symbols at John Macarthur’s Grace To You click here.

John Macarthur and The Master’s Seminary Graduates Support James MacDonald’s Network of Facilitator-led Churches

James MacDonald is the senior pastor of Harvest Bible Chapel in Chicago.  Their church-planting arm is Harvest Bible Fellowship.  Harvest Bible Fellowship runs a network of about 70 churches which are based on the Harvest model which is a Church Growth model that employs facilitator-led groups.  Harvest affiliate churches call these facilitator-led groups “Life Groups.” To learn about these Life Groups click here.
 
James MacDonald has also signed the anti-Christian Manhattan Declaration.  To see that he signed it click here. (J Macdonald has signed the Declaration and was listed on an “other signers” list, however, I can no longer find this list online)  To learn more about the Manhattan Declaration click here.
 
Walk in the Word is James MacDonald’s national radio ministry.  According to James MacDonald’s blog, Mark DeMoss sits on the Board of Walk in the Word and is James MacDonald’s good friend.
 
Who is Mark DeMoss?  Mark DeMoss is the founder and president of the DeMoss Group.  According to his website, “The DeMoss Group is the largest PR firm specializing in faith-based organizations and causes.”  The DeMoss Group’s clients and “other organizations with which they’ve worked” include: Billy Graham Evangelical Association, Campus Crusade for Christ International, Prison Fellowship/Chuck Colson (UN-NGO), Potter’s House/TD Jakes, Samaritan’s Purse/Franklin Graham, Concerned Women for America (UN-NGO), Coral Ridge Ministries, Focus on the Family (UN-NGO), Habitat for Humanity (UN-NGO), Harvest Crusades/Greg Laurie, INJOY/John Maxwell, Manhattan Declaration, National Day of Prayer, Promise Keepers, Psychological Studies Institute, Regent University, Salem Communications, Southern Baptist Convention (UN-NGO), Teen Challenge Worldwide Network, The Salvation Army (UN-NGO), Wheaton College and Willow Creek Association.
 
Mark DeMoss’ sister is Nancy Leigh DeMoss.  James MacDonald has committed to speak at her True Woman ’10 Conference.  Other speakers include Kay Arthur, Joni Eareckson Tada, and Jennifer Rothschild.
 
Mark DeMoss is Chairman of the Board of Trustees of Liberty University.  Mr. DeMoss, who was an advisor to Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign, considers Mormons to be on a “journey with Christ” with himself.  Click here to read more.
 
The director of operations of Harvest Bible Fellowship is Mr. Bill Molinari.  According to his Harvest Bible Fellowship bio., Mr. Molinari currently serves on the boards of John Macarthur’s Grace To You and The Masters Academy’s International (TMAI).  He is also an elder at the Harvest Chapel affiliate in Hickory, North Carolina which is now pastored by Kurt Gebhards, an admitted change agent and a former elder at John Macarthur’s Grace Community Church.  To learn more about Mr. Molinari scroll down the page here.
 
John Macarthur, who I’m told is “good friends” with James MacDonald, has attended his Straight Up Conference.  John Macarthur’s friend, Al Mohler, has also attended this conference (one can see that here).  To see John Macarthur speaking and shaking hands with James MacDonald, then scroll down the pictures here.
 
The Harvest Bible Fellowship Training Center trains seminary graduates to “launch” a “healthy church plant” based on the Harvest “Church of Life Groups” (church of facilitator-led groups) model.  This training lasts 8 months.  Their Training Center webpage under the heading “Curriculum” states: “The lecture model is generally avoided in favor of the Socratic method, coaching and case studies. Spirited group discussions are the norm.”  The Socratic method isn’t a biblical teaching method; it is a dialectical method.  Also from the Harvest Training Center website: “The academically inclined ‘lone wolf’ will not last long in ministry, unless he learns how to take risks and open up relationally with others.”  Preaching and teaching God’s word as the Holy Spirit leads is out; facilitating human relationships is in.  The duration of any ministry is determined by God alone.
 
Who is currently attending Harvest Training Center’s 8 month long training program?  I’m told that attendance includes recent graduates from John Macarthur’s The Master’s Seminary (TMS).  Upon conclusion of this training, these TMS graduates will be obligated to plant Harvest clone churches of facilitator-led groups.  To learn about the dangers of group facilitation then click here.
Jason Fevig is one of a few of John Macarthur’s TMS graduates who are already leading these Harvest affiliates.  “Prior to planting Harvest Miami in the fall of 2009, Jason completed the Harvest Training Center residency program, having earned his Master of Divinity degree from The Master’s Seminary in Los Angeles, California. While in seminary Jason and his wife, Grethel, served in Adult Ministries shepherding a small group at Grace Community Church (where John MacArthur serves as Teaching Pastor).”  Jason’s transition to the Harvest “Church of Life Groups” model must have come easily after acquiring small group facilitation skills at John Macarthur’s Grace Community Church.
 
James MacDonald’s Harvest Bible Fellowship has admitted that their network of ministries are a TRICK!  “Our mens and womens and student ministry is a TRICK to get them into small groups.”  To learn more about this trick read A Facilitator-led Church Group is the Gate to Hell: A Letter of Warning to Kurt Gebhards’ Hickory Harvest Church, the Harvest Bible Chapel Affiliate in North Carolina: “A Church of Life Groups”

John MacArthur and the Blood of Christ

By E. L. Bynum
 
The following article is being reprinted from the Plains Baptist Challenger of August, 1986. After all these years, this information about John MacArthur’s teaching, is still needed today. His teaching on the blood of Christ is dangerous, and people are still being led astray by it. There will be a follow up article on this same subject, and if there is enough demand, we shall consider putting this information in a tract or booklet. –E. L. Bynum
 
Macarthur Minimizes the Blood
 
The April 1986 edition of Faith For The Family quotes him as saying in a 1976 article entitled, “Not His Bleeding But His Dying” “It was His death that was efficacious. . not His blood. . . Christ did not bleed to death. The shedding of blood had nothing to do with bleeding. . . it simply means death. . . Nothing in His human blood saves…It is not His blood that I love. . . it is Him. It is not His bleeding that saved me, but His dying.” It is incredible to me, that a Christian minister would make such statements.
 
He Does Not Like Rev. 1:5 In The KJV
 
In “Not His Bleeding But His Dying,” MacArthur had this to say: “I may add a note on Revelation 1:5, a passage which is confusing in the King James Version. The word ‘washed’ is not correct. The Greek work is ‘delivered.’ ” With that statement, I would like to take issue. “And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood” (Rev. 1:5). What could possibly be confusing about that? He says that ”washed” is incorrect and that it should be “delivered.” Like most “great” scholars today, MacArthur suffers from the Westcott and Hort syndrome. “Washed” is in the Textus Receptus, and is so rendered by George Ricker Berry in his Interlinear Greek-English New Testament. In his invaluable footnotes, Berry reveals those responsible for trying to change the reading of this verse. The word was changed by Lachmann, 1842- 1850, Tischendorf, Eighth Edition, 1865- 1872, and Tregelles, 1857- 1872. These are three of the men that laid the groundwork for Westcott and Hort, so that they could make the alarming changes in their Revised Version. The American Standard Version, 1901, of course went along with the change, but they did put in a significant footnote. While rendering the word as “loosed,” their footnote says, “Many authorities, some ancient, read washed.”
 
I do not agree with the change as found in the ASV, when it reads “Unto him that loveth us, and loosed us from our sins by his blood.” Nor do I agree with the NIV as it reads, “To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood.” However, whether it is rendered “washed,” “loosed,” “freed,” or “delivered,” it is still “by” or “in” His blood that this is done. While the ASV, the NASV, and the NIV definitely weaken the verse, neither one of them will really let MacArthur off the hook. Whether washed from our sins, or delivered from our sins, it is still only by the blood.
 
MacArthur Sounds Like Bratcher On The Blood
 
In his commentary on Hebrews, pages 236 to 237, I find further alarming statements as he deals with Hebrews 9:16-22. While he does say some good things, he clearly is talking in circles. When he says that “blood is a symbol of death,” he sounds very much like the apostate Dr. Robert G. Bratcher, who translated the “Good News For Modern Man.” This is what Bratcher believed, so he felt free to change “blood” to “death” in Eph. 1:7, Heb. 10:19, and Rev. 1:5. He changed “blood” to “sacrifice” in I Pet. 1:19. He also managed to leave out blood, or substitute another word in Matt. 27:4,24,25; Acts 5:28; 17:26, 20:28; Rom. 3:25, 5:9 Col. 1:20; Eph. 2:13, and Rev. 5:9. Of course Bratcher’s “Good News Bible” is one of the most corrupt translations of the 20th Century. It would appear that in regard to the blood at least, that MacArthur and Bratcher are on the same wave length.
 
Why Pit His Blood Against His Death?
 
MacArthur states that, “It was not Jesus’ physical blood that saves us, but His dying on our behalf, which is symbolized by the shedding of His physical blood. If we could be saved by blood without death, the animals would have been bled, not killed, and it would have been the same with Jesus.” I have never heard of anyone teaching that Jesus only needed to bleed a little to save us, and not to die. Numerous passages of Scripture tell us that Christ died for our sins. This is found in I Cor. 15:3, as well as many other places. If anyone denied this, I would object very strenuously to their denial, but my question is, why does it have to be His “death” or His ”blood”? It is both His “death” and His “blood” that are important according to the Bible.
 
How can MacArthur truthfully make the following statement? “Again, however, we need to keep in mind that the blood was a symbol. If Christ’s own physical blood, in itself, does not cleanse from sin, how much less did the physical blood of animals. ” (Emphasis ours.) Many passages of Scripture reveal that he is dead wrong in his approach.
 
What Does The Scriptures Say?
 
The elders were admonished “to feed the church of God, which he bath purchased with his own blood” (Acts 20:28). Redemption and remission of sins cannot be apart from “faith in his blood” (Rom. 3:24,25). We are “justified by his blood” (Rom. 5:9). “In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins. . . ” (Eph. 1:7). We “are made nigh by the blood of Christ” (Eph. 2:13). “We have redemption through his blood” (Col. 1: 14), and he “made peace through the blood of his cross” (Col. 1:20).
 
In Hebrews we are told that “by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us” (Heb. 9: 12). We are told, “without shedding of blood is no remission” (Heb. 9:22). We have “boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus” (Heb. 10:19). Jesus suffered with out the camp, “that he might sanctify the people with his own blood” (Heb. 13:12).
 
John tells us clearly that ”the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin” (I John 1:7) ”Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood” (Rev. 1:5). They will sing of Christ, ”thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood” (Rev. 5:9).
 
Even though MacArthur believes that he has dispensed with Rev. 1:5, as we previously discussed, he still must face Rev. 7:14. I think he shall find little comfort there. “These are they which came out of great tribulation. and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.” Even the revised texts, and their new version offspring, such as NIV, and the ASV, give MacArthur not one whit of aid and comfort. If the blood itself has no significance, then why do we have all of these Scriptures?
 
What Christ Said About The Blood
 
MacArthur’s belief cannot be reconciled with the words of my Saviour, when He said, “For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins” (Matt. 26:28). “This cup is the new testament in my blood which is shed for you” (Luke 22:20). These words were spoken by the Lord Jesus Christ as He instituted the Lord’s Supper for His Church. In all honesty, it would seem to me, that MacArthur should eliminate the drink, “the fruit of the vine,” from the Lord’s Supper. He only needs the unleavened bread. Of course if he were to do so, he would be in direct disobedience to the Word of God.
 
The children of Israel were told to slay the Passover lamb. They were to take the blood of the lamb, and strike it upon the door posts of their houses. “And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you…” (Ex. 12: 13). God did not tell them to hang the body of the lamb on the door post.
 
MacArthur’s doctrine is in conflict with Lev. 17:11, “For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.”
 
It is perfectly clear that MacArthur minimizes the blood of Christ. To me, this is a terrible thing for anyone to do. While he may not go as far as R. B. Thieme, Jr., he certainly is headed in the same direction. Bible believers need to mark such men, and avoid them, according to the Scriptures. The teaching of MacArthur, on this subject, is very dangerous, and he should be exposed.
 
The clear and direct statements of the above Scriptures prove that John MacArthur is wrong in his teaching about the blood of Christ. He has departed from the general Biblical teaching on this subject. No matter how popular he may be, we must believe the Bible and not MacArthur.
 
He Is In Conflict With Writers Of The Past

I have examined a number of the writings of other men on Heb. 9:22, and I find that they are not in agreement with John MacArthur. Of this verse, John Gill says, “And without shedding of blood is no remission; that is, of sin; there was no typical remission without it; and there can be no real remission but by the blood of Christ, no instance can be given of pardon without it; if it could be otherwise, the blood of Christ had not been shed…” (Gill’s Commentary, Vol. 6, page 734, Baker Book House).
 
Matthew Poole says, ” . . . without the death of some living creature as a sacrifice, and the blood of it not only shed, but sprinkled, there could be neither legal pardon of guilt, nor purging of ceremonial filth. By this God signified to Israel, that without the blood of Christ his Son, and the Testator of his testament, shed as a sacrifice, to purchase and procure both remission and the Spirit, there could be neither pardon of the guilt of sin, and removal of the punishment, nor purging the filth, or renewing the nature of the sinner, his blood being the inestimable price purchasing both for them.” (A Commentary on the Holy Bible, by Matthew Poole, Vol. 3, page 851, MacDonald Publishing Company).
 
E. Schuyler English says of Heb. 9:22, “And now we come to a dogmatic and absolute statement: ‘and without shedding of blood is not remission.’ All men stand upon one level in respect to the sin question and as to the remission of sins. It cannot be apart from the blood that is shed. This is God’s way. This is precious truth. Not one sin can ever be remitted apart from the blood. All generations must look to the blood-the blood of Christ.” He further writes, “Sin is a serious matter. It’s only antidote is the blood of Christ. . . No, dear friend, we ourselves have no merit, nothing in which we can boast, no hope in the world or in eternity, saving in the precious blood of Christ that was shed for us and pledges to bring us into an eternal inheritance that is incorruptible and cannot fade. ‘Without shedding of blood is no remission.’ ” (Studies In The Epistle To The Hebrews, by E. Schuyler English, pages 270-271, 1955, Southern Bible Book House). While English may be placed in the new evangelical camp, his teaching on the above verse is Biblical.
 
What Spurgeon Said About The Blood
 
Charles H. Spurgeon preached a sermon entitled. “The Blood Shedding,” February 22, 1857, from Hebrews 9:22. He describes the suffering and death of Christ, and says, “Mark his brow-they have put about it a crown of thorns, and the crimson drops of gore are rushing down his cheeks! . . . But turn aside that purple robe for a moment. His back is bleeding. ..They lift up the thongs, still dripping clots of gore; they scourge and tear his flesh, and make river of blood to run down his shoulders! This is the shedding of blood without which there is no remission…They fling him to the ground; they nail his hands and feet to the transverse wood, they hoist it in the air…Blood from his head, blood from his hands, blood from his feet. . They pierce his side, and forthwith runneth out blood and water. This is the shedding of blood, sinners and saints; this is the awful shedding of blood, the terrible pouring out of blood, without which for you, and for the whole human race, there is no remission…it is not a thing which you may doubt, or which you may believe; it must be believed and received, otherwise you have denied the Scriptures and turned aside from God.” He further states, “It cuts off every other hope, bring your hopes here, and if they are not based in blood, and stamped with blood, they are as useless as castles in the air, and dreams of night. ‘There is no remission,’ says he text, in positive and plain cords. . . Except you put confidence n the shedding of our Saviour’s blood, and in the blood shedding alone, for without it there is no remission.” (The New Park Street Pulpit, Vol. 3, pages 90-92, Pilgrim Publications).
 
Spurgeon never changed in his preaching of the blood. On May 30, 1875, he preached again from the same text. In his sermon, he repeated over and over, “Without shedding of blood is no remission.” Without resorting to lengthy quotations, we can honestly say that his doctrine never changed. He said, “It is not possible that any sin should ever be forgiven to any man without shedding of blood.” (Metropolitan Tabernacle Pulpit, Vol. 51, page 426, Pilgrim Publications).
 
Of course nothing is true simply because Spurgeon, Gill, or someone else said it; but it so happens that what they said on the blood is biblical and sound, while what MacArthur has said is false.
No one can deny that MacArthur is a gifted and talented speaker. He is the Senior Minister of Grace Cathedral, Panorama City, California, and the popular speaker on the widely distributed radio broadcast entitled, “Grace To You.” He has built a tremendously large church, and he has a very large radio audience. This is all the more reason why someone should expose his false teaching on the blood. No doubt we shall lose some friends over this exposure of error, but we hold truth dearer than we do friends. The cause of truth must ever be first. -From Plains Baptist Challenger 8/86
 


JOHN MACARTHUR AND THE BLOOD OF CHRIST
 
A few months ago a pastor friend and I visited a John MacArthur meeting in Vancouver, British Columbia, and I purchased a copy of MacArthur’s commentary on Hebrews with the desire to see exactly what he says about the Blood of Jesus Christ. This commentary was published in 1983 by Moody Press. Moody Bible Institute holds the copyright.
 
There can be no mistake about MacArthur’s position that the Blood itself does not save us, that the Blood is SYMBOLIC of death. Words could not be plainer. In a mere three pages of this book MacArthur uses the term “symbolic” no less than thirteen times:
 
“Blood is a SYMBOL of death, and therefore follows closely the idea of a testator’s having to die in order for a will to become effective. …
 
“It is possible to become morbid about Christ’s sacrificial death and preoccupied with His suffering and shedding of blood. It is especially possible to become unbiblically preoccupied with the physical aspects of His death. It was not Jesus’ physical blood that saves us, but His dying on our behalf, which is SYMBOLIZED by the shedding of His physical blood. …
 
“The purpose of the blood was to SYMBOLIZE sacrifice for sin, which brought cleansing from sin. Therefore, without shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.
 
“Again, however, we need to keep in mind that the blood was a SYMBOL. If Christ’s own physical blood, in itself, does not cleanse from sin, how much less did the physical blood of animals. It is not surprising, then, that the Old Covenant allowed a SYMBOL for a SYMBOL. … This exception is clear proof that the old cleansing was SYMBOLIC. Just as the animal blood SYMBOLIZED Christ’s true atoning blood, so the ephah of flour SYMBOLIZED and represented the animal blood. This non-blood offering for sin was acceptable because the old sacrifice was entirely SYMBOLIC anyway.
 
“Yet this was the only exception. And even the exception represented a blood sacrifice. The basic SYMBOL could not be changed because what it SYMBOLIZED could not be changed. … Since the penalty for sin is death, nothing but death, SYMBOLIZED by shedding of blood, can atone for sin. … the only way we can participate in the New Covenant, is through the atoning DEATH of Jesus Christ, made effective for us when we trust in Him as saving Lord” (John MacArthur, Hebrews, pp. 236- 238).
 
Let me remind our readers that this book is still being published by Moody Press and is being sold by John MacArthur’s ministry. I purchased it directly from his ministry in Canada this year. This is not something that MacArthur said off the cuff many years ago and which he has since corrected. This is precisely what the man believes today.
 
MacArthur’s position on the Blood of Christ is a great heresy. It is precisely the same heresy promoted by the translator of the Today’s English Version, who replaced the term “blood” with “death” in most key passages.
 
Blood is NOT merely symbolic for death when we are speaking of Christ’s Atonement. God’s law demands death AND the shedding of blood for remission of sin (Lev. 17:11; Eze. 18:4; Rom. 6:23; Heb. 9:22). The Old Testament sacrifices depicted how the Lord Jesus Christ would pay the price for sin. The blood of the O. T. sacrifices did not merely depict Christ’s death; it depicted Christ’s BLOOD. His death alone could not save us; His blood was required. In Romans 5:9-10 we see the two together. Verse 9 says we are justified “by his blood,” and verse 10 says we are reconciled “by his death.” Any view which confuses the blood of Christ with His death is heresy.
 
I realize that MacArthur has taken some unusual stands for an Evangelical today. He has spoken against the Charismatic movement and against Promise Keepers and against Evangelicals & Catholics Together. In fact, though, the man refuses to practice biblical separation. He claims that Charismatics are theologically wrong, for example, but he fellowships with them and stands shoulder to shoulder with them in preaching engagements. Be not deceived: John MacArthur is NOT a friend to the Fundamental, Bible-believing, New Testament church. He is a dangerous New Evangelical, and his position on the Blood of Christ is heresy.
 

MACARTHUR DENIES THE REALITY OF THE BLOOD OF CHRIST
 
MacArthur says the blood of Christ “could not save” and “it was not the FLUID that saved us, it was the DEATH of Christ.”
 
In the May 1976 issue of the Grace to You Family paper that is distributed to his church, MacArthur published an article titled “Not His Bleeding, but His Dying.” In this, MacArthur plainly stated that it is not the blood of Christ that saves.
 
Ten years later, in a letter to Tim Weidlich, Paul Clark, Kevin Jolliff of Bob Jones University in Greenville, SC, April 4, 1986, MacArthur made the following statement of his position:
 
“Obviously, it was not the blood of Jesus that saves or He could have bled for us without dying. It was His death for sin that saves. When Romans 3:25 speaks of ‘faith in His blood’ everyone understands that to be a reference to His death — not the blood running through His body. In Romans 5:9, being ‘justified by His blood’ also refers to His death, as verse 10 makes clear in saying ‘we were reconciled to God by the death of His Son.’ In fact, the careful explanation of salvation in Romans 6 omits any reference to His blood at all. The point is that the shedding of blood was just the visible indication of His death, His life being poured out. … I admit that because of some traditional hymns there is an emotional attachment to the blood — but that should not pose a problem when one is dealing with theological or textual specificity. I can sing hymns about the blood and rejoice with them — but I understand that reference to be a metonym for His death.”
 
MacArthur was still preaching this in the 1990s. When I attended one of his conferences in British Columbia in that decade, I purchased a copy of his commentary on Hebrews to check out his teaching on the blood for myself. In this commentary, MacArthur repeatedly says the blood is merely “symbolic” of death.
 
This is the false position taken by Robert Bratcher, editor of the Today’s English Version. In that perverted translation the word “death” is almost always substituted for the word “blood” when the Scriptures are referring to Christ’s atonement.
 
This is a damnable heresy, because the atonement REQUIRES BOTH the death and the blood of Christ (Heb. 9:22). The blood IS NOT merely symbolic for death. It itself is a crucial part of our salvation.

MACARTHUR TEACHES A LORDSHIP SALVATION DOCTRINE
 
“MacArthur’s new book, The Gospel According to Jesus, is confusing concerning salvation. Much of what he says is good. But we cannot agree with his ‘lordship salvation’ remedy to ‘easy believism’ and the loose living of some professing Christians of our day, since it requires more from the seeking sinner than the Bible does for obtaining salvation. He erects a straw man, and makes it appear that those who oppose his ‘lordship salvation’ teachings believe things they do not believe. His tone often seems reactionary. Puritan and Reformed influences are evident in this book. [MacArthur is a Calvinist.] He seems to confusingly mix justification and sanctification, salvation and discipleship, and blurs dispensational considerations. The cure for a ‘too easy’ gospel is not to complicate it. Paul warned of the danger of being ‘corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ’ (2 Cor. 11:3). Dr. J. I. Packer in the book’s foreword said ‘those who reject leadership salvation choose to keep works out of justification.’ Galatians 2:16 likewise does!” (Calvary Contender, Jan. 15, 1989).

MACARTHUR IS HYPER CALVINIST
 
In December 1989, the Bible Broadcasting Network terminated Dr. MacArthur’s “Grace to You” program. In explaining that step, BBN president Lowell Davey referred to MacArthur’s teachings on “Lordship Salvation,” “Hyper-Calvinism,” and the blood of Christ. He called these teachings “confusing.” In a letter dated Jan. 15, 1990 Davey cited a “drift by Dr. MacArthur to a theological position that we could not adhere to” and said his series on election “convinced us that the direction of ‘Grace to You’ was toward Hyper-Calvinism…”
 
In his popular study Bible, MacArthur denies that Jesus Christ died as a Substitute for all men.

MACARTHUR IS A NEW EVANGELICAL ECUMENIST
 
MacArthur frequently speaks at ecumenical forums, such as the Moody Bible Institute Founder’s Week. For example, at the February 1986 Moody Bible Institute conference, MacArthur joined hands with two of the chief ecumenists of our day, Billy Graham and Luis Palau. Both Graham and Palau regularly join together in ecumenical relations with Roman Catholics. Graham has turned thousands of his converts over to the hands of the wolves in sheep’s clothing in the various Catholic parishes that have participated in his crusades. (We have documented this extensively in our 371-page book Evangelicals and Rome.)
 
In July 1988, MacArthur spoke at the Congress on the Church and the Disabled at the Billy Graham Center at Wheaton College, which featured Roman Catholic and New Evangelical speakers (Moody Monthly, Oct. 1988).
 
MacArthur participates in the National Religious Broadcasters (NRB) and speaks at their conferences. The NRB is extremely ecumenical. The 1997 conference featured Seventh-day Adventists, “laughing revival” Pentecostals, the Worldwide Church of God, and an entire slate of New Evangelicals, such as Joseph Stowell, Franklin Graham, Max Lucado, and David Jeremiah.
 
In 1987, MacArthur participated in Jerry Falwell’s Super Conference VIII, which featured E. V. Hill. The late Dr. Hill pastored a church affiliated with the modernistic National Council of Churches in America and he was an ecumenist of the ecumenists. I heard Hill speak at New Orleans ’87 to a mixed crowd of some 40,000 Catholics, Protestants, Baptists, and Pentecostals. Fifty percent of the attendees were Roman Catholic, and a Catholic priest brought the final message. Hill said, “And to see all of our Catholic friends here. Wow. We are almost there!” He accepted them as brethren in Christ and did not have one word of warning to them about Rome’s false gospel. This was a pattern in Hill’s ministry. He often joined hands with Roman Catholics. Other examples are the Washington for Jesus Rally in 1980, Graham’s Amsterdam conference in 1983, and the Congress on the Bible II in 1987.
 
In these various ecumenical forums, MacArthur also puts stamp of approval upon every sort of Contemporary Christian Music and Christian rock music by making his appearance and not speaking out against the worldliness and compromise that is present.
 
For more about MacArthur’s New Evangelical philosophy and practice, see our article “John MacArthur and New Evangelical Ecumenism,”
 

Another Look At Macarthur And The Blood of Christ
 
By E. L. Bynum
 
Is is possible that John MacArthur, the popular pastor and radio speaker, is not sound in doctrine on the blood of Christ? It is not only possible, but it is certain that his views are at variance with the Word of God. In the August 1986 issue of the Plains Baptist Challenger we published an article examining those views. Other publications have also exposed his unscriptural views on the blood of Christ.
 
Since that time, MacArthur has written a number of letters trying to justify his doctrine. Several copies of these letters have been mailed to us by our readers. I have also received a letter from MacArthur, addressed directly to me. After reading these letters a number of times, I am more convinced than ever that his views are contrary to Scripture.
 
MacArthur’s Teaching On The Blood 

In the August article, I quoted from the April 1986 issue of Faith For The Family published by Bob Jones University. For the benefit of new readers, I shall quote the entire article from Faith For The Family.
 
“John MacArthur’s, in 1976, said in an article entitled, ‘Not His Bleeding But His Dying:’ “It was His death that was efficacious…not His blood…Christ did not bleed to death. The shedding of blood has nothing to do with bleeding…it simply means death…violent sacrificial death…Nothing in His human blood saves…it is not His blood that I love…it is Him. It is not His bleeding that saved me, but His dying.’ I wonder what MacArthur does with Hebrews 9:22, ‘without the shedding of blood is no remission.’ and I John 1:7, ‘the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin’? MacArthur’s position is heresy. – Editor”
 
That issue of Faith For The Family list Bob Jones as Editor. We are indebted to Bob Jones for bringing MacArthur’s doctrine to light. I agree with him when he said “MacArthur’s position is heresy.” 
 
Has MacArthur Been Misrepresented? 
 
In a letter dated August 29, 1986, MacArthur said, “I am convinced that most of the confusion could have been avoided had the magazine (Faith For The Family) used my comments in their full context.” I would imagine that Bob Jones did indeed have his comments in full, when he wrote the above statement. I know for certain that I did have his full comments before I wrote the article for the August PBC. His full comments in no way clear him of the false doctrine that he expounds.
 
Some pastors and editors now say that they are convinced that MacArthur is sound on the blood of Christ. Frankly, I wonder if these people have examined his doctrine, or if they have been by his rhetoric. After reading his letters, in spite of his rewording and rephrasing some of his doctrine, it still adds up to the same thing. The man simply has peculiar and unscriptural views concerning the blood of Christ. Undoubtedly, he is an expressive writer and speaker, with great powers of persuasion.
 
The original comments under discussion were published by MacArthur in 1976. He entitled it “Not His Bleeding But His Dying.” It begins with a letter which said, “Dear John, I would like to ask you about your recent statements concerning the ‘blood of Christ.’ Could you take a moment to explain to me what you meant more clearly? Thank you, A Learning Member.” Apparently, the “Learning Member” was troubled by some of the things MacArthur had said. The rest of the page contains MacArthur’s answer in fairly small print, and among other things, it contains the quotes that were printed in Faith For The Family. I do not find that those remarks were taken out of context, nor do they misrepresent what MacArthur said.
 
MacArthur’s Recent Letter 
 
In his Sept. 25th letter to me, he begins by saying, “Dear Pastor Bynum: Recently, I became aware of the syllabus being distributed by Rev. D.A. Waite regarding what he believes to be my position on the precious blood of my Saviour.
 
” I have to tell you that I have been misrepresented, slandered, falsely accused, and lied about in regard to this issue. Of course I believe Jesus Christ shed His blood in sacrificial death for the sins of the world – no one could read the Scripture and believe otherwise. I have preached and written on the virtues of Christ’s ‘shed blood’ for years”
 
I am just wondering who “misrepresented, slandered, falsely accused, and lied” about this man’s views. I certainly cannot find where Bob Jones did this. I certainly did not do so in my August article. After reading what I wrote, I wouldn’t change any of it, if anything I would make it stronger. I did not have Waite’s syllabus at the time I wrote my article, but since then I have examined a copy, and I do not find where D.A. Waite misrepresented him either. MacArthur’s whole problem is that his unscriptural views have been put into print, and he has not found any way to extricate himself. His problem could be easily solved if he would only admit his error, repent of it, and simply state what the Bible says about the blood of Christ and affirm his belief of the same.
 
In his letter he refutes some of the heretical doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church on the blood. He also denounces several other heretical views, that personally I have never heard of in over 30 years in the ministry. He leaves the impression that someone is teaching that Christ only needed to bleed a little, and not to die, in order to save sinners. Just who is teaching such heresy, MacArthur never does say. Most likely this is a straw man erected in the brain of MacArthur.
 
He asks,”How could the red and white corpuscles be literally applied to believers in salvation? To our physical bodies? Could it be otherwise with literal blood? Will MacArthur ever tell us just who is teaching such nonsense? I doubt if he ever will. His third question seems to imply that those who believe that the literal blood of Christ saves, are teaching that the red and white corpuscles are applied to believers. Surely he can do better than that. He vainly tries to smear those who believe in the power of the blood with the Catholic heresy of transubstantiation. 
 
Some Good Things He SEEMS To Say 
 
“Of course I believe Jesus Christ shed His blood in sacrificial death for the sins of the world..” “I affirm that the New Covenant was ratified by Christ’s blood; that the blood of Christ is precious; and that Christ shed His blood in dying for our sins.” This may sound well and good, but what MacArthur giveth in one place, he taketh away in another. One should be extremely careful in examining any statement he makes in regard to the shedding of blood. Why is that? It is simply because MacArthur by his other statements, has already revealed that he means something else when he speaks of the shedding of blood. 

1. HIS STRANGE VIEWS ON THE SHEDDING OF BLOOD 
 
In his 1976 article he said, “The shedding of blood has nothing to do with bleeding…it simply means death…violent sacrificial death.” John 19:34 gives some interesting insights. The reference is literally to ‘blood-clots and serum.’ The soldier piercing His chest cavity with a spear demonstrated that Jesus had not bled to death. His blood was still in His veins and arteries after physical death.”
 
No one that I know claims that Jesus bled to death. This is a smokescreen without a doubt. We maintain that Christ did indeed shed his blood and that He also died. According to MacArthur’s own words, he does not believe that Christ literally shed His blood, but that the Scriptures which speak of such a thing, are merely referring to His death. The Bible says, “one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water” (John 19:34). According to MacArthur this is not so, but rather ‘blood-clots and serum’ came out. This may be the idea of MacArthur and some modern medical man, but I will just believe what the Bible says. All this is suppose to be a part of his evidence that Christ did not shed His blood.
 
He repeats this error in his Sept. 25th letter, where he says, “The shedding of His blood was the visible manifestation of His life being poured out in sacrifice, and Scripture consistently uses the term ‘shedding of blood’ as a metonym for atoning death.” (Emphasis ours). It is incredible that he continues to rephrase the same error. Webster says that a “metonym” is, “a word used in metonymy, as a substitute for another.” So there you have it, when MacArthur speaks of the “shedding of blood,” he is really speaking about the death of Christ. Shades of Karl Barth – for this is the method of neo-orthodoxy.
 
What Does “Shedding Of Blood” Mean? 

It is not too difficult to discover what shed and shedding means in the Bible. The word translated shed in the O. T. is also translated many times as “pour out” or “poured out.” See Lev. 17:11,13. It is used of the pouring out of the blood. “The priest…shall pour all the blood of the bulllock at the bottom of the altar..” (Lev. 4:7) See Lev. 4:18,25,30,34; Deut. 12:16,24; 15:23, and many other O. T. scriptures. William Wilson in his O. T. Word Studies says that it means “to pour out.” In I Kings 18:28 the same word is used where it reads “till the blood gushed out.”
 
The Lord tells us, “without shedding of blood is no remission.” (Heb. 9:22) “Shedding of blood” is translated from one word, and Strong says that word comes from two Greek words. One is “haima” which is the Greek word for blood, and the other is “ekcheo” which is the Greek word for shed or to pour out. Strong says of “haimatekchusia,” the word found in Heb. 9:22, that it means “an effusion of blood – shedding of blood.” Now as for the word that is translated “shed,” “pour out,” “gush out,” etc., how can anyone deny that it means simply that. Strong says that it means “to pour,” or to “gush (pour) out.” Berry and Thayer says that it means “to pour out.” On the basis of that, how in the word could John MacArthur say, “The shedding of blood has nothing to do with bleeding..it simply means death…violent sacrificial death?” (Emphasis ours). This writer is completely mystified as to where he gets his information. It is not to be found in the Bible, nor in the lexicons and word studies, so where does it come from?
 
In his 1976 article, MacArthur said, “His shed blood represents His sacrificial physical and spiritual death for us.” No, his shed blood represents His shed blood. It is wrong to try to teach that blood means death. A careful reading of his statements makes it clear that he does not really believe that Christ shed His blood.
 
II. MACARTHUR’S ERROR ON THE SAVING POWER OF CHRIST’S BLOOD 
 
In our view, the most grievous and deadly part of MacArthur’s false doctrine is his outright denial of the saving power of the blood of Christ.
 
We must remember that MacArthur’s 1976 article was not written to a Catholic, or a cult member, but to a “Dear Learning Member.” Whether it was to a member of his own church we do not know, but it was to someone who signed their name, “A Learning Member.” Now let us see what he writes to that learning member.
 
MacArthur Vs. The Word Of God “It was His death that was efficacious..not His blood.” (Emphasis ours throughout article. The three dots were placed there by MacArthur’s and does not represent something that we have left out.) “Nothing in His human blood saves.” Not only has MacArthur not repudiated his 1976 statement, but he repeats something very similar to it, in his August 29, 1986 letter, when he said, “The blood of Christ is precious – but as precious as it is, His physical blood could not save.”
 
It is incredible that a veteran pastor and Bible teacher would make such unbelievable statements. To cleverly cloud the issue, he brings in “His human blood,” and “His physical blood.” Why bring in such words as “human” and “physical”? Why not just use the terminology of the Bible.
 
Contrary to what MacArthur’s says, the Bible does place strong emphasis on the saving cleansing power of the blood of Christ.
 
His blood was shed for the remission of sins. When Jesus instituted the Lord’s Supper, He took the cup which contained the fruit or juice of the vine and said, “For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.” (Matt. 26:28). Of course, the fruit of the vine did not turn into the blood of Christ, but it symbolized something that was real, and that was the blood of Christ. Christ’s blood was shed for the remission of sins.
 
We have been purchased by His blood. When Paul was speaking to the elders of the Church at Ephesus, he told them “to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.” (Acts 20:28).
 
Redemption and remission of sins cannot be apart from FAITH IN HIS BLOOD.” (Rom. 3:24,25).
 
We are justified by His blood. “Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.” (Rom. 5:9). We gladly affirm that “Christ died for us” as we are told in v.8, but by so doing we will never, never play down the value of His blood. The Bible places great emphasis on both the death of Christ, and the shed blood of Christ. Why should anyone try to play down either His death, or His shed blood??
 
We have redemption through His blood. “In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sin, according to the riches of his grace.” (Eph. 1:7) “In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins.” (Col. 1:14). There is no redemption for the sinner, and there is no forgiveness of sins apart from the shed blood of Christ.
 
We have peace through His blood. “And having made peace through the blood of his cross.” (Col. 1:20)
 
We are made nigh by the blood of Christ. (See Eph. 2:12).
 
By His own blood He entered into the holy place. “Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. (Heb. 9:12) On the day of atonement, the high priest took the blood of a bullock into the holy place and sprinkled it on the mercy seat for his own sins. Then he took the blood of a goat into that same place and sprinkled it on the mercy seat for the sins of the people. (See Lev. 16). Jesus did not do that. He entered into the holy place in heaven, not by the blood of goats and calves, but by His own blood. It was done once, not every year, or perpetually!
 
Our sins are purged, and remitted by the blood of Christ. “Without shedding of blood is no remission.” (Heb. 9:22).
 
We are redeemed by the precious blood of Christ. Peter, by divine inspiration tells us that we are “redeemed…with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot.” (I Pet. 1:18,19) .
 
Our sins are cleansed by the blood of Christ. “The blood of Jesus Christ his son cleanseth us from all sin.” (I John 1:7).
 
We are washed from our sins by His blood. “Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood.” (Rev. 1:15). MacArthur says that “washed” should be “delivered.” We don’t buy that, but even if it were so, we would still be “delivered from our sins in this own blood.”
 
We are redeemed to God by His blood. (See Rev. 5:9)
 
Tribulation saints will wash their robes and make them white in the blood of the Lamb. (See Rev. 7:14).
 
Will You Believe MacArthur, Or The Bible?
 
In light of the above Scriptures, as well as many others, I am amazed that any man would have the audacity to say, “It was His death that was efficacious…not His blood.” Who is he to say, “Nothing in His human blood saves?”
 
III. MACARTHUR AND THE O. T. SACRIFICES 
 
In our view, he makes some misleading statements about the O. T. sacrifices. While much that he says is true, there is a deadly danger in the implications of some of his remarks. He writes the following in his Sept. 25th, 1986 letter. “Bloodshed was God’s design for all Old Testament sacrifices. They were bled to death rather than clubbed or burnt. God designed that sacrificial death was to occur with blood loss as a vivid manifestation of life. (‘the life of the flesh is in the blood’) being poured out. Nevertheless, those who were too poor to bring animals for sacrifices were allowed to bring one-tenth of an ephah (about two quarts) of fine flour instead (Lev. 5:11). Their sins were covered just as surely as the sins of those who could afford to offer a lamb, goat, turtledove, or pigeon (Lev. 5:6-7). That is because the sacrifice was entirely symbolic anyway.”
 
In this paragraph MacArthur has chosen a passage of Scripture that he believes will help his cause. The offerings that were required in the first six chapters of Leviticus varied. Of course all of these offerings pointed to Christ and typified His life and work. The offerings of Leviticus 2 were made of flour, oil, and frankincense. The fine flour typifies the evenness, balance, and purity of His person. No blood sacrifice is required in this chapter. An animal for a blood sacrifice was required in chapters 1,3,4 and 6. MacArthur is correct in saying that in chapter 5, the poor could bring an offering of fine flour. We venture to say that the fine flour did not typify the blood of Christ, but it did symbolize other aspects of His life and death. 
 
How Does This Affect The Other Sacrifices? 
 
It affects them not at all. Cain could bring nothing but a lamb. Nothing else would be acceptable to God. Not the fruit of the field, and not fine flour would suffice. (See Gen. 4). Could Noah offer fine flour on the altar? No! He had to offer the clean beasts and clean fowls. (See Gen.8:20). On the Passover night down in Egypt, could the Israelites have offered fine flour instead of a lamb? Could they have dusted fine flour on the door posts? No, they could not! It had to be a lamb. If death was the only issue, then they could have hung the head or the hooves of the lamb on the door posts. Yes, the lamb must die, but the shed blood had to be sprinkled on the door posts in order to save the firstborn. (See Ex. 12)
 
On the day of atonement, could the high priest have taken fine flour and sprinkled it on the mercy seat? No, he had to take the blood of the bullock for his own sins, and the blood of the goat for the sins of the people, and sprinkle it on the mercy seat. So for MacArthur to take the one instance from the Old Testament where the poor could take an offering of fine flour rather than a blood sacrifice, is in my view, very misleading. In all other instances it did make a difference whether there was a blood sacrifice made or not.
 
Beating Around The Mulberry Bush 
 
MacArthur is a very, very articulate man. He knows the English language well, and is able to express himself as well as anyone we have ever heard. It is very strange that he has to be beat around and around the mulberry bush in page after page, and still be unable to make himself perfectly clear. Why is this? It is because he has peculiar and unscriptural views of the blood of Christ. After reading his letters on the blood, I have the distinct impression that they are blurred by fog and smog. If he ever decides to come out from behind his smokescreen, none of us will have any difficulty in understanding what he believes about the blood. He could settle this problem very easily, by simply repudiating his heretical statements about the blood of Christ. He could then simply take the fundamental approach of accepting what the Bible says about the saving power of the blood of Christ. It is clear, it is simple, and only someone who has something to hide, will fog the issue by using strange terms about the precious blood of Christ.
 
We will probably make more enemies than friends over this issue, because most people do not like controversy. But regardless of the cost, we have no intentions of backing up on this fundamental doctrine of the Word of God.
 
IV. FUNDAMENTAL LEADERS ARE DISTURBED ABOUT THE FALSE TEACHING ON THE BLOOD 

The September/October, 1986 issue of the News Bulletin of the Fundamental Baptist Fellowship of America contains two highly significant items, about the blood of Christ. While I am not a member of the Fundamental Baptist Fellowship, I heartily commend them for speaking out on the blood of Christ.
 
First, there is an outlined Bible Study entitled, “The Blood Of Christ – I Peter 1:18-19.” Although it is unsigned, this excellent study takes up almost two pages. It may well have been written by Don Jasmin, their Research Secretary. In my view, it blows MacArthur’s foggy position right out of the water.
 
Second, it contains a resolution passed by the World Congress of Fundamentalists, meeting on the campus of Bob Jones University, August 4-8, 1986. While MacArthur’s name is not mentioned in the Bible Study or in the Resolution, there is no doubt in my mind as to why they are speaking out at this very time. While MacArthur is trying to make out like fundamental leaders are in agreement with him on the blood, we venture to say that there are many fundamental pastors who are deeply disturbed over his stand. We believe that there are many who want to distance themselves from the false teaching of John MacArthur.
 
Below we are reproducing word for word the resolution mentioned above. It is clear and plain. There is no foggy and misleading words contained in it. Any Christian can understand it, but the same cannot be said for MacArthur’s views.
 
WORLD CONGRESS OF FUNDAMENTALISTS PASSES RESOLUTION ON THE BLOOD OF CHRIST 
 
Meeting on the campus of Bob Jones University August 4-8 delegates at the World Congress of Fundamentalists passed numerous resolutions dealing with pertinent issues. Among those resolutions was this timely one dealing with the blood of Christ. 
 
Regarding the Position of the World Congress of Fundamentalists on the Blood of Christ 
 
Whereas the physical body of Christ in the Holy Scriptures means the real, literal body of God the Son incarnate; so also in the Holy Scriptures when the Blood of Christ is mentioned, it is the real, literal Blood which was poured out from that same body and which accomplished our redemption.
 
The Bible reveals the mysteries of our redemption. In that revelation a divine principle is revealed, illustrated, and enforced. That principle is”…Without shedding of blood is no remission” (Heb. 9:22).
 
Sin can only be atoned for and cleansed from the heart of the sinner by the precious Blood of God’s appointed Lamb, the Lord Jesus Christ. Christ must die once for all, but His death must be by literal blood-shedding; and the Blood shed becomes the all-sufficient merit by which sin’s guilt-power, and ultimately its very present, are destroyed.
 
The Holy Scriptures nowhere separate the voluntary death of Christ from the sacrificial shedding of His sinless Blood, but rather links them inextricably in one inseparable act.
 
The Bible Reveals: 
 
1. That the precious Blood is incorruptible. It cannot be anything else because of its intrinsic purity. I Peter 1:18,19: “Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold…But with the precious blood of Christ..”
 
2. That the precious blood is indestructible. It cannot be anything else because of its permanence. The Blood is eternally preserved in Heaven. Hebrews 12:24: “And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.”
 
3. That the precious Blood is invaluable. It cannot be anything else because of its parentage. It is the Blood of God incarnate. Leviticus 17:11: “For the life of the flesh is in the blood…” Acts 20:28: “…the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.”
 
4. That the precious Blood is indispensable. It cannot be anything else because of its power. No sinner can be saved without washing in the Blood of the Lamb. Revelations 7:14: “..these are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.”
 
Therefore, this Congress: 
 
1. Reaffirms its adherence to the Scriptural teaching on this subject;
 
2. Rejects every attempt either to deny the literalness of the Blood or to minimize its efficacy and the necessity of its shedding in Christ’s death on the cross. Such denial is a dangerous and devilish deception;
 
3. Calls upon Fundamentalist preachers and God’s saints everywhere to proclaim anew the saving efficacy of the shed Blood of Christ in His death on the cross, and to alert the Church in regard to all heretical teaching on this vital truth, ever remembering that we overcome the devil himself by the Blood of the Lamb. Revelation 12:11: “And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony…”

Extraordinary Christian Testimonies that Expose John Macarthur’s  Church as a Mind Control Cult

Cult Education Institute hosts a discussion forum for “Ex members of John Macarthur’s church.”  Some of these ex-members have testified convincingly that John Macarthur’s Grace Community Church is a cult. The following Christian testimonies have been excerpted from that discussion board.
 
I have been researching John Macarthur’s cult for a number of years and it’s my belief that the following testimonies very accurately describe what’s going on within his ministries. ​ And I find it remarkable how these different testimonies corroborate each other.  I have learned very much from reading these testimonies and I believe the reader will as well.  They are most eye-opening.
 
First Testimony: A Former Student who Attended John Macarthur’s The Masters College
Second Testimony: A parent whose children attend Grace Community Church
Third Testimony: A man who has witnessed churches destroyed by Macarthur’s disciples
Forth Testimony: A Christian who has been damaged by John Macarthur and his followers
Fifth Testimony: A Christian who has experienced the Cultic control techniques of Macarthur’s disciples
Sixth Testimony: A Christian whose daughter is a member of Macarthur’s church
Seventh Testimony: A Christian regarding the destruction of Christians churches infiltrated by Macarthur’s disciples
Eighth Testimony: A Christian whose father’s church was taken over by Macarthur’s “sect.”
Ninth Testimony: A Christian who knows John Macarthur personally and who was a member of Grace Church for 20 years
Tenth Testimony: A Christian who spent many years in a Macarthur-network church

​1. Testimony of a Former Student who Attended John Macarthur’s The Masters College

Posted by: bjw
Date: September 09, 2010 12:43AM
 
I was in this cult 12 years ago for 2 years when I got suckered into going to his college right out of high school. I haven’t been to this board in awhile but I’m glad I’ve found others that are willing to talk about it. It is a very destructive counseling cult that masquerades as Christianity, and you are not told how they really believe until you have paid your money and moved onto the campus. After my folks gave their life savings to send me to “college” it was too late to leave. It has more in common with Scientology than it does Christianity, they make members refuse psychiatric treatment of any kind as well as sign a release just like Scientology. They offer a kind of counseling they call “Nouthetic” counseling or something like that where all problems in your life, be it depression, anxiety, etc. are said to be your fault and caused by unconfessed sin in your life, which you get rid of by confessing to your counselor. Counselors pay thousands of dollars to get degrees in this counseling. There have been two high profile suicides in the church, one of which occured while I was there when a girl named Angelica took an overdose of heroine in her dormroom.
 
They offer a very attractive pitch to go to their “college” and claim that it is non-denominational Christianity, in that they accept all denominations as long as you are Christian. In reality it is a way to slowly indoctrinate you into MacArthur’s twisted belief system, which many accept within the first several months, but to the ones that don’t they use very aggressive and hostile tactics to try to pressure you into accepting it. You are not permitted to question anything, and if you have doubts or disagreements with any of MacArthur’s teachings or his staff it is said to be because of unconfessed sin in your life. It took many months of psychotherapy after I left this cult to get my life back in order. My therepist immediately recognized this as a cult when I explained to him what I went through.
 
I have been afraid to speak out because I know they will come up with some false witnesses to refute what I’m saying, but if I can find others that have had similar experiences I would not be afraid to speak out. If we could stop just one person from being taken in by this cult it would be worth it. I believe they should be allowed to practice whatever they want under freedom of religion, but not when it destroys people’s lives, and not when they trap unsuspecting Christians into their scam…
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: September 09, 2010 07:18AM
 
The church threatened me with litigation while I was leaving over something totally made up. Also, one of my friends got out six months before I did and they told all his friends he renounced Christianity (which was false, he just renounced MacArthur’s beliefs) when in reality he went back to his home church he was in before the cult. He lost all his friends over that, who completely shunned him. I was asked by them once to separate from my father because he disagreed with MacArthur’s lordship views. I met a man in my support group whose wife left him because she joined the church and he didn’t agree with the theology.
 
…this church does nothing but ruin lives. Myself and two friends I made there nearly had our lives ruined, and I know there were more that left because the pressure to accept this man’s [John Macarthur] lies were too great….
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: September 10, 2010 10:44AM
 
When they sent their recruiter to my high school I was told that MacArthur was pastor of a large church in the LA area, but was assured that the college was made up of various Christian denominations and that the school was non-denominational. The only requirement was to be a bible-believing Christian. They said I would be required to attend a church of my choice and would have to minor in Bible, but that the classes would be taught from a non-denominational standpoint with students from different denominations of Christianity. Once I got there this was obviously no the case. I had no idea what “Lordship Salvation,” “Nouthetic Counseling” or any of MacArthur’s unique doctrine or terminology was. When I got there and first expressed concern about it, I was told at first that MacArthur more than likely believed the same way I did, he just expressed it in a different way. So they really do make the indoctrination process rather slow at first…
 
In addition to forcing you to minor in their Bible classes, making you attend two church services and three chapel services per week, attend dorm and small group Bible studies, if you are known to disagree with any of their doctrines you are constantly being confronted either from staff or students that are church members. If you disagree with Lordship Salvation you are told that you may be “self-deceived” and were not really saved when you accepted Christ. At this point they usually insist that you see a counselor that will talk to you about your life to find out if you have unconfessed sin. One of their members kicked me in the shins real hard and told me I was going to hell. Eventually several students even threatened me with physical violence when I wouldn’t want to accept what they teach. I do not believe that works are necessary for salvation, and MacArthur teaches that you must be constantly demonstrating you are saved by doing works, constantly increasing the amount of works as you “mature.” They believe that only those that accept Lordship Salvation are saved, and this is kept from you during the first few months. I eventually read “Faith Works” and “The Gospel According to Jesus” and it was obvious to me that his beliefs are not compatable with Christianity.
 
After so many attempts to get you to believe it fail, eventually everyone around you that has accepted it will shun you to the point that they will not even speak to you, and if they do they talk to you like you are an animal. It’s hard to live in an environment where you can’t eat around people in the cafeteria, make friends, or even have a friendly conversation. You feel like an outcast. It was hard to not cave-in to the peer pressure, and the counselor they make you see picks apart your life to find things that they use to say you are unsaved, be it the music you like, the movies you watch, going to theme parks more often than you go witnessing. It’s a very works-oriented cult, and they even said I was going to Hell for refusing to go on a missions trip for them (during Spring Break) to the most dangerous part of South Central Los Angeles instead of going to take care of my grandmother and aunt who were both sick at my home…
 
My therapist also said that after examining MacArthur’s teachings, he believed MacArthur himself may suffer from bipolar disorder, or have an inflated sense of self with grandiose thoughts the way cult leaders and dictators often have. After knowing the man personally, I could definitely see that…
 
This group has a heavy “end justifies the means” mentality. For instance, when I would get attacked physically at the campus not one person around there would witness for me, and when I would turn the person in at the Student Life office any witnesses around would say I made the whole thing up. They use false witnesses a lot, such as the shin-kicking incident I mentioned earlier. Similar to Scientology’s fair game doctrine, the church will not discipline anyone that lies against or does harm to someone hostile to the church or MacArthur’s teachings. While they believe a strict works doctrine, it goes out the window when it comes to protecting the church and other members.
 
I sent a 10 page report of what I went through to a Christian ministry that is dedicated to exposing MacArthur and other cults and they were going to publish it on their website with the names changed but I stopped them at the last minute because I remembered the threats they made at me before and I know they have a good legal team. I’m still considering it after I can get an attorney to read the report and confirm there’s nothing in there they could possibly use to come after me with legally…
 
At the time my dad was buying heavily into the free-grace movement led by Bob George of People to People Ministries. My beliefs at the time were also heading in this direction, although the high school I came out of was Reformed. I talked to John MacArthur about George’s views in his office and he told me that he knew I loved my father, but it was time I made a choice. He looked at me very cross when he said that and I knew what he meant. This was actually common, I met several students in various small group Bible studies I was in that wouldn’t have anything to do with their families because they favored “easy believism” and would not accept Lordship Salvation. That’s probably the most sad element of this cult. Parents send their kids off to college only to have them give up all their time to this church, even during vacations they go on missions trips to spread Lordship doctrine and don’t even go home. While some go home, it was common for them to keep one dorm open during breaks for kids coming and going on missions trips.
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: September 11, 2010 02:27AM
 
…They frown on any Christians that do not teach Lordship Salvation, and feel if you do reject it there must be something in your life like unconfessed sin. Many in Bible studies I was in felt this way about teachers like Charles Ryrie and Billy Graham, saying there must be something in their lives we don’t know about that is sinful and preventing them from accepting Lordship Salvation. These people are said to be “self-deceived” and thus not saved.
 
The only provision they give for outsiders to be saved is that they are keeping MacArthur’s beliefs without knowing it and just don’t call it Lordship Salvation.
 
Posted by: bjw Date: September 11, 2010 11:57AM
 
Charles Ryrie is extremely looked down upon in the Lordship movement for writing his book “So Great Salvation.” The students there used to call him “Liarie Ryrie.” MacArthur wrote a book called “Forgiveness” that has a chapter that really puts down the free grace movement, particularly Bob George’s People to People ministries. In MacArthur’s books he calls the grace of the free grace movement “cheap grace” because it is said to not be able to save a person. So, the answer is no, the higher ups never corrected anyone for saying free-gracers are not saved.
 
MacArthur’s books “The Gospel According to Jesus” and “Faith Works: the Gospel According to the Apostles” are an intro to MacArthur’s views on salvation and how he feels about those that disagree with him (he calls all Christians that don’t agree with him “Non-lordship salvation” even though many have varying views). In fact, the intro flap on “Faith Works” in the edition that was around 10 years ago says that the book is a stark contrast from the “easy gospel” being taught by most of Christianity. These books are a good setup to the us vs. them mentality that is later taught if one pursues membership in the church, or goes to the college/seminary…
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: September 11, 2010 12:48PM
 
This is a good example of what I was talking about. I do not reject any of the gospel because John MacArthur does not teach the gospel. It is a counseling cult that masquerades as Christianity, with a merit, works-based system in which one must do more and more, getting better and better all the time or else they are not saved.
 
In the back of the MacArthur Study Bible is a list called “Character of Genuine Saving Faith” which has a list of about 20 items that must be present in your life to merit salvation. You must constantly increase the abundance of these things and answer to a mentor, a “more mature Christian” (usually a small group leader or church appointed counselor that has paid thousands of dollars to the church to take “Nouthetic” counseling classes) who will evaluate how you are doing. Not doing enough (not topping your last progress) is grounds for discipline, or as they call it “stumbling.” If you stumble over the same thing 3 times in a row you are shunned, or as they call it “treated as a pagan or a tax collector.” Friends are made to constantly report on each other, and when they catch someone “stumbling” if the person was considered more mature than you, you are not allowed to question their findings. (There were signs up all through the dorm halls saying “Am I making sure everyone else is engaged in holy living?”) You are not allowed to see a psychologist or psychiatrist as MacArthur feels these are a conspiracy to infiltrate Christianity by the evolutionists, and should you have depression, anxiety, etc. and want counseling you must sign a release stating that GCC will not be sued should you be injured or committ suicide while in their care. The longer you are in is the more authoritarian the church becomes over your life to the point that most of your free time is spent serving the church or witnessing, mostly to other churches who do not accept Lordship Salvation. You are constantly reminded that not doing enough works means you do not have genuine saving faith, thus condemning you to burn in hell for eternity.
 
Now, I do not consider this the Gospel because it is an authoritarian cult that gets people by deception and ruins lives. My view is that our salvation, that is, us not burning in hell eternally, is only accomplished through the blood of Christ, not through any works or merit-based system, and not by learning any theology or going to any church. My view of the function of churches is to give us a place to grow spiritually and do works not because we’re trying to prove we are saved but because we are receiving blessings from a loving Heavenly Father that are both in this world and in the rewards we will receive in the world to come. Remember, the Bible says salvation is not by works lest any man should boast.
 
…When I first got there and I would ask questions about what I heard they would say that I probably already believe like they do, I just understand it differently or use different terminology. When they use the word “Christian” they are using it to mean those that have what they consider “genuine saving faith.” The word grace to them, as in the name of the church, refers only to God’s grace in giving them the opportunity to enter the lordship/discipleship committment that MacArthur teaches, and not a “free” gift as most Christians would understand, since MacArthur’s books say that all non-Lordship churches believe in “cheap grace.” To the unsuspecting public this church would seem like it is run of the mill Christianity with words like “grace,” “salvation,” and “Christian” being used so freely, but a careful reading of MacArthur’s books will reveal that this is not the case.
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: September 12, 2010 08:56AM
 
It was common for people to doubt their salvation. The guy living in the dorm room next to mine was having trouble sleeping nights because he was afraid he wasn’t doing enough for the Lord. He even dumped his girlfriend and cut out most extra activities to serve the church [not Christ?] to the point where he was burned out. Being in this group really is a depressing world view. They say it is “eternal security,’ but it is only secure to the extent that you are constantly showing evidence, or else you may discover you were “self-deceived” and not saved…
 
These signs that were up were the invention of MacArthur’s second-in-command Mark Tatlock and was typical of MacArthur’s extreme interpretation of Matthew 18. It’s all about evidence and constantly proving you have genuine saving faith. It is a very confrontation based system where it is common for people to call you out on things that you must repent of.
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: September 13, 2010 12:36AM
 
In my opinion what makes this church a cult is not necessarily its doctrine or the fact that they have elevated MacArthur to such a high status, but is the way the doctrine is presented and how the church and college is ran…I think the whole mind-control process, the way you are slowly indoctrinated, and the authoritarian way that every aspect of your life is controlled by the group is what makes it a cult.
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: September 15, 2010 03:14AM
 
MacArthur has a very charismatic personality, and very easily charms his followers. He also makes himself seem very intelligent by using Greek/Hebrew and theological terms. He makes people think that Christianity is headed down the wrong path and that he’s attempting to get it back to the way it was originally, and he’s very good at “hopscotching” through Bible verses to get people to believe this. It is definitely a very carefully crafted scheme that is good at suckering people in.
 
I also believe that MacArthur has many accomplices in how this cult is ran, such as the Nouthetic counseling in which I know he recruited several different authors to staff the counseling department at the college that teaches the Nouthetic Counseling classes, some have extensive psychology backgrounds, and I’m sure a lot of the counseling ideas were borrowed from L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology. Dianetics and Nouthetic both contain the Greek root word “Nous” and I know Scientology claims that Dianetics comes from the Greek “Dia” and “Nous” which is also the root of “Nouthetic.” While Dianetics deals with healing mental illness by ridding the mind of past “abberations,” MacArthur’s brand of Nouthetic counseling deals with healing mental illness by going through the mind’s past experiences and searching for unconfessed sin, and ridding the mind of it by confessing the sins. So, it really is a similar concept in confronting past experiences. Also, both make the person sign a release and forsake any kind of psychology or psychiatry, and both see these as a conspiracy.
 
I’m not sure how he came up with the ideas for the salvation doctrines, but I can imagine it was carefully crafted to gradually take over a person’s freedom and scare them into obedience. They probably looked at many different cults and were careful about making sure they don’t spring the doctrine on someone all at once. From what I hear about the Jehovah’s Witnesses and Scientologists it seems like there are similarities, like requiring so much work on the part of the church member, not allowing anyone to question doctrine or leaders, shunning unbelievers or those who disobey leaders, punishing disobedience through shunning until repentance, making people constantly question their salvation and/or spirituality. It seems like the Lordship Salvation/Nouthetic Counseling views of MacArthur are like a “best of” of what various cults teach with some Christianity thrown in or misinterpreted to fit the doctrine.
 
I believe he has a complex and is hungry for the power his followers give him. He always came across to me as very arrogant and feels he is the ultimate authority on everything. What makes him dangerous is all the people that will follow him no matter what.
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: October 08, 2011 06:21AM
 
I was a member of his [Macarthur’s] church, attended his college, have been to his mansion, lived in an apartment building/dorm complex owned by him, and was taken for thousands of dollars by him. I can tell you unequivically that his teachings are not biblical in any sense of the term.
 
The rubbish he puts out is to lure people in so they’ll spend thousands of dollars going to his sham college/seminary and church. I’ve also said before what he really believes is not even in his books or sermons that are sold to the public at large. His definition of grace is not the same as used by the rest of Christianity. Many people have been hurt by this cult, two people have committed suicide, and there’s probably many more that we don’t even know about yet.
 
I wish more people would come forward that have been hurt by this cult, been asked to deny medical treatment, separated from their family, ruined financially, or any other of the common abuses inflicted by this so-called church. If enough people come forward, the abuses will stop.
 
I have written up my story and sent it to various Christian ministries that are considering publishing it, but I chickened out at the last minute and told them to put a hold on it because I’m afraid they will retaliate by legal and other means. When I first left they harassed me real bad and falsely accused me of crimes. I want to make sure I have more people that can corroborate my story and I want to show it to an attorney that can read it and see if anything should be left out…
 
…Basically, MacArthur’s teachings are like a twisted combination of Jehovah’s Witness (the salvation doctrines), Scientology (the counseling/mental health doctrines), and end-times conspiracy groups. He’s taken a “best-of” of the major heresies and made one cult out of it. Since it is flavored with popular mainstream Christian doctrines (trinity, dispensationalism, premillenialism, creationism) he’s able to slip it in easily to the unsuspecting public…
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: November 21, 2011 04:30AM
 
You are expected to attend John MacArthur’s church when you are there. If you cannot get transportation there then you are expected to attend a number of local churches that are ran by college/seminary staff and hold to the same beliefs as MacArthur.
 
You are expected to report to a counselor all intimate details of your life to check for unconfessed sin, and you are subject to discipline under what they call the “Restoration Process” which I have mentioned elsehwere in this thread. (Many other cults do things similar to this, Scientology has a similar practice they call “Sec Checking,” which you can find on the net.)
 
You are not allowed to get treatment from psychiatry, all treatment is handled by your counselor, and you must sign a contract that holds GCC/TMC and MacArthur harmless from being sued. Only a cult would do this, no legitimate church I know of would require this.
 
Eventually when you tell your counselor about people in your life who disagree with MacArthur’s viewpoints, you will be told to disassociate with these people as they are hindering your spiritual maturity. Other cults do this as well, Scientology calls it “disconnection” and I forget what Jehovah’s Witness calls it. My opinion is they do this because they know when others find out your new beliefs they will see it for what it truly is. I was even asked to break ties with my father and to neglect taking care of my aunt and grandmother because they wanted me to go on a mission for GCC.
 
The church retaliates against those that leave or are thinking about leaving. When I started questioning the beliefs one “counselor” kicked me in the shins real hard and told me I was on my way to hell. When I reported this the church wouldn’t discipline him because he was telling me “what I needed to hear.” I had a private detective follow me and the church threatened legal action against me about a crime I didn’t committ, and said they wouldn’t persue it if I would leave quietly, not talk about my experiences there, and not try to take anyone with me when I left. If tactics like this don’t scream “cult” I don’t know what does…I have two witnesses that have left that were there when I was and I am going to get them to back up my story.
 
In short, what makes it a cult is the tactics they use, not necessarily their beliefs. Deceptive advertising, slow indoctrination, controlling your life, making you report to a counselor the intimate details of your life, having to report on your friends, having to leave friends and family that disagree with them, having to refuse medical treatments that could be lifesaving, being shunned as a punishment for sins, making it hard to leave, retaliating against people who do leave or disagree, these things are the hallmarks of a cult.
 
Lordship Salvation as a philosophy is a very depressing worldview in and of itself, but when you add all these cultic tactics to it that makes it even worse. You have to constantly improve, constantly show evidence, or else you are not saved. To them there is no recognition of what Jesus did for us as there is with other churches. For them Jesus died so we can enter the Lordship Salvation life of constantly doubting whether we are saved or not. This is not mainstreat Christianity, which MacArthur believes is in a state of apostacy, teaching a watered down Gospel. It is not non-denominational Christianity as they claim.
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: November 24, 2011 01:27AM
 
You do not know how many hours I sat down with them [Macarthur’s school  authorities] and was ganged up on by them almost to the point of tears. There is absolutely no reasoning with them. In fact, they are so confrontational I had to drive off and go home before finals week and had to take straight Fs on all my courses the last semester. I even sat down with John MacArthur himself for a whole hour about many of the issues I’ve mentioned on here, as well as different members of his staff. Keep in mind this is the same person that built a museum to himself, as I mentioned in an earlier post. He’s not likely to bend on any of his practices.
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: August 13, 2012 11:04PM
 
The “breaking sessions” you mention sound like some of the counseling sessions I experienced where I was badgered for an hour to try to get me to confess to things. Eventually it strips you of all your self-worth, making you believe any problems in your life are your fault. The spying and reporting on other people was also commonplace when I was in.
 
It’s interesting they had a group on campus called the “Wow Staff” that would show up a week early to do the “week of welcome” for new recruits. (The beginning of the brainwashing where you are subjected to sermon after sermon introducing you to Lordship doctrine, love bombed by the staff and Wow staff, taken to ball games and picnics, introduced to Nouthetic Counseling when a wow staffer offers to become your mentor (who later abandons you for one of the more vetran counselors with a degree), attend a church fair where you choose either GCC or a church that has adopted the Lordship system, and play various games.) This all seems well and good but naming them “Wow Staff” is a deception. The Wow in wow staff does not mean “Week of Welcome” as you first are led to believe. It means something else (I never found out the real meaning).
 
Here’s the deception:
 
Each apartment of 4 in an apartment dorm has one wow staffer per room placed there. Each dormroom of 2 has one per room where possible or at least per every other room when they are low on staff. The requirement to become a Wow Staffer is basically to be the elite of the true believers in Lordship teachings plus have good grades and meet other requirements. Wow staff had weekly meetings all year (so much for week of welcome) where they talk to student life about what they learn about each student, who will be problems, etc. An example of these tactics was when they learned I listened to rock groups, they had a wow staffer befriend me to find out how I believed, what bands I listened to, my relationship with my family, basically all personal details. I know they shared the info because other wow staffers I talked to knew the info when I only talked about it in private to this person. It is the Wow Staff that carry out the will of the church to the rank-and-file student body at the college, whether legal or illegal…
 
Now, to people not in the cult this is an obvious form of lying, intrusiveness, spying, etc., but for people that are in they see no problem with it. It sounds like the spying you experienced at these churches was a carryover of how the main organization is ran. The mind control aspect is the most sinister because it puts the average member in a “slave/master” relationship with the church leadership. [Macarthur has written a book called “Slave” and he does teach the lie that all Christians are slaves.]
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: August 22, 2012 02:13AM
 
The MacArthur Study Bible was written by a whole staff of people using his notes, I know this because they bragged about being in a room for many days with people bringing them food to eat while working without stopping. There was actually a whole team involved in that who poured through pages of notes about each book of the Bible while sitting around a table. This was actually compiled and released while I was still in.
 
One interesting note about his sermons. I talked to one former member that told me a story about how he listened to a MacArthur sermon tape on the way to GCC one night while he was on his way to the evening service. The tape was a sermon based on the Book of Romans. He told me that MacArthur delivered the exact same sermon that night word-for-word like it was on the tape. So, I believe the sermons are also written in advance and possibly even proofread by a staff before being delivered, and can be recycled at a moments notice.
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: August 22, 2012 08:05AM
 
I believe there are many accomplices behind this cult, such as Phil Johnson as well as the college and seminary faculty. To me it is far too crafty a scheme to be thought up by only one man.
 
Also, I believe the books are “self-promotion” and “advertising” in that they are written for the purpose into hooking you further into the movement, to purchasing the other materials, taking the classes, etc…
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: August 23, 2012 04:34AM
 
Even when talking to MacArthur in private it seems like he would always try to correct you about something, and he always comes across as the final authority on everything. He’s probably the least humble person I’ve ever met. He does have a very charismatic personality, and when you first meet him he comes across as being very charming and caring to people. He seems very friendly on the outset, but if you try to engage him in a serious conversation he quickly becomes aggrivated and will try to correct you in everything you talk to him about. He can be very stern at times, and definitely has a “cult leader” personality…
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: August 25, 2012 08:11AM
 
Let me just say, that, in my opinion, there are no beliefs in Lordship Salvation that can possibly be justified using the Bible. In fact, the Bible contadicts almost all of their major doctrines. Why do you think he has had to publish over 90+ books, including a Bible that has their beliefs at the bottom of each page?…
 
…I will give one obvious contradiction with the Bible concerning the “Restoration Process” doctrine. Currently their rule is basically you are to be shunned if you commit the same sin 3 times, and they use verses out of Matthew 18 to prove this belief. However, a closer reading of these verses will show that it is referring to someone who “trespasses against thee” as in verse 15. The person trespasses against you, you are supposed to confront him, then bring 1 or 2 witnesses, since out of the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses every word is established. If he still doesn’t hear them you are to go to the church. MacArthur always seems to stop here.
 
If you go on, in verses 19 and 20 it says the reason for this is wherever 2 or 3 are gathered in His name, He is in the midst of them. This means that if it is God’s will, the person will make up with you if he has done something wrong to you, since it is Christ that is the restorer, not a counselor or church member, and it is clearly referring to fellowship between people, not God and people. We see this in the next part where Peter asks shall we forgive 7 times? Jesus says no, 70 times 7. This nullifies the Lordship view of getting 3 chances for forgiveness, since Jesus says it is unlimited. The chapter goes on to illustrate the point further with the Parable of the Servant, who did not have compassion to forgive the way he was forgiven.
 
Matthew 18 says nothing whatsoever about looking for sin in other’s lives, church discipline, dealing with sins believers confess to others, it has nothing to do with any of that. In fact, the overarching theme of Matthew 18 is mercy and compassion to others. It teaches compassion to children, unlimited forgiveness, compassion to your fellowman. It does not teach what MacArthur says it does when he takes one section of the chapter out of context.
 
Further, Nouthetic Counseling is built on the same faulty premise that all mental illness or problems in your life are caused by unconfessed sin, and you must confess these sins to your counselor and not stumble over them more than 3 times, or you are shunned by the church. Even though the passages are about one believer trespassing against another believer, and deciding the matter with Christ’s help “in the midst of them,” and the person is to be forgiven 70 x 7 or unlimited, the counseling doctrines are built on the premise of the verses about the first three encounters with the person taken out of context, and rather than “trespasses against thee” it is about sins you commit against God, even in your thoughts or other types of sins that are not “trespasses against believers.”
 
This is also why all Christian churches are not rushing to implement the Restoration Process or get Nouthetic Counseling departments established at their churches. The Lordship view is a minority, and I would be surprised if any church outside of the Lordship movement interpreted these verses MacArthur’s way.
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: August 26, 2012 04:51AM
 
I had many friends in this group and I cried for weeks when most of my friends severed ties with (shunned) me when I left. I had friends that were seminary students, executives, professors, missionaries, ministers, as well as students. I do not hold anything against any of these people. They are victims and deserve to be treated with human dignity. The people that are at fault are the theological professors and MacArthur for coming up with the salvation doctrines, and the former psychologists staffing the Nouthetic Counseling department (Wayne Mack, etc.) for coming up with the counseling doctrines…
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: November 15, 2012 05:04AM
 
Also, if you disagree with them, under the “Restoration Process” doctrine you will be given 3 chances to repent, then people will be told to shun you, and if you are on good terms with the cult you may be asked to shun other people that are going through this process. You will be told to treat these people as “pagans or tax collectors.” Each time you are disciplined you are said to have “stumbled.”
 
I was in for 2 years (lived on campus) and knew John MacArthur and many of his top executives personally…
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: February 20, 2013 08:27AM
 
If there were a way you could show the similarities between GCC and Scientology, the flaws in the Restoration Process & Counseling doctrines, how the counseling has failed to cure mental illnesses, why other theologians have rejected Lordship Salvation, MacArthur’s denial of the atonement of Christ, MacArthur’s acceptance of some Calvinistic doctrines and the fact that Calvin was a murderer, etc.
 
Remember many who get caught up in this cult have not been exposed to any Christianity in the past. Also, it is a very slow mind-control process that they use. The whole thing is not revealed up-front, or people wouldn’t join… Make no mistake about it, it is definitely a cult. It is designed to eventually get you to give up all your money and time and become a total slave. Members join under high pressure tactics, get others to join, use confrontation to pressure people that have to be “restored,” sign up for expensive classes to get degrees to spread the doctrines to get other to join. It is a vicious cycle that needs to be stopped.
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: February 24, 2013 06:08AM
 
Charismatic Chaos, as well as the Creation symposium, and all other comparitive religion debates are all ways to slip “Lordship Salvation” in to those who have not yet accepted it. For instance, many people have relatives that join a charismatic church and are concerned whether or not this is true Christianity, so they will go to a Christian bookstore and pick up a copy. After reading the book it convinces them how intelligent MacArthur is and is a good intro to convince them to purchase “Faith Works,” “The Gospel According to Jesus,” and “Biblical Counseling.” These books will introduce them to the Lordship movement and get them into a church that teaches this, possibly even getting them into the college or counseling program. Also, comparitive religion helps convince them that all other Christianity is slipping deeper and deeper away from the truths of Lordship Salvation.
 
Scientology is actually a good comparison to this group as they are both counseling cults, the difference being GCC hides behind a veneer of Christianity.
 
After my psychiatrist told me that MacArthur took much of his doctrine from L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology I decided to do some research with both anti and pro Scientology websites, here’s what I found compared to what I went through during my time in Lordship Salvation:
 
When I entered counseling at GCC I had to sign a contract saying the church would not be sued if I were injured or committed suicide while in their care. Scientology critics call this document the “Lisa clause.” At times my counselor would expect me to confess sins to him, looking for things from my life for me to confess. When I had nothing my counselor and the witness (usually a Wow Staff member, the elite Lordship believers at the college) would occasionally become aggressive, yelling at me until I came up with something. Scientology critics say Scientology calls this practice a “sec check.” [Confession is an important component in mind control.  To whom you confess is to whom you subordinate yourself.  The Catholic Church utilizes confession for this same purpose.]
 
If you did not top your last progress or committed the same sin two counseling sessions in a row it was known as “stumbling.” Stumbling three times meant you were to be shunned or “treated as a pagan or a tax collector.” The shunning did not end until you showed your counselor enough improvement. The same treatment was given to any who disagreed with Lordship Salvation, meaning if any friends or family disagreed you were to break off ties until they accepted the doctrine. Scientology critics say this is called “disconnection” in Scientology speak.
 
Seeing a psychiatrist is prohibited, since MacArthur believes they are evolutionists and are trying to infiltrate the church. In fact, one article on the GCC site says accepting the word of a psychiatrist is the equivalent to adding to Scripture. The belief is that all mental illness and life problems are caused by unconfessed sin in your life. By going through the counseling you are supposed to be able to be cured of these problems…
 
All of these practices bear a striking resemblance to Scientology, and since this cult was founded much later it appears many of the practices were copied and adapted for a “Christian” perspective. (and no, despite what the museum propaganda said, they weren’t founded in 1927) Also, in my opinion, Scientology is more honest because they flat out tell you on their website how your life will be if you join. If I would have known how GCC/Masters was I would never have joined. I think prospective students should be given a packet, maybe even a copy of “Faith Works,” and told all of the practices at GCC that are peculiar compared to the rest of Christianity.
 
So, considering all of this, I don’t understand how Scientology is not a good comparison. I think in terms of the commitment involved Jehovah’s Witness may be a good comparison as well, since the believer is expected to do so much work for the group as well. (See “Character of Genuine Saving Faith” in the back of the MacArthur Study Bible.)
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: February 26, 2013 07:32AM
 
This is the lunacy of this scam. The way it is structured they never run out of things to ding you on. “Growth” is something that never stops, and must always keep moving forward. You can never do enough to satisfy this list.
 
Separation from the world? Are you devoting more time to watching tv or going to amusement parks/movies than you do witnessing? No matter what someone else will always be doing more than you are, thus you are “stumbling.” The cult member is lead into a depression where they are always questioning if they are doing enough. Whenever I would take a cult member to a theme park with me they would be witnessing to people in the ride lines so they wouldn’t fall behind on their works.
 
However, when the cult itself violates these items, it is always the “end justfies the means.”
 
John MacArthur doesn’t even realize he has set up an impossible standard that even he cannot possibly live up to it.
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: March 03, 2013 07:09AM
 
I would say that at least half of MacArthur’s introductory material is devoted to putting down other denominations/cults/ministries, as well as using fancy theological terms and Greek and Hebrew. It never occurs to people that he perverts Greek and Hebrew (saying “pistol” the word for believe is the same word used for obey, etc.) and that he no longer agrees with the people that gave him his college degrees.
 
Eventually after reading the materials against other organizations (Charismatic Chaos, etc.) you start to agree that Christianity is heading down the wrong path and needs a restoration. Then, you start to get into the salvation doctrines with books like Faith Works. This convinces you that all of Christianity is teaching a watered-down salvation and you may be “self-deceived.” Once subscribing to this, you start to learn the conspiracy theories and get introduced to the counseling doctrines (“Biblical Counseling” sets up the theory that psychiatry is a tool of evolutionists to infiltrate Christianity).
 
You start to believe that MacArthur has all the answers and there’s no way he could be wrong because he has proof using Greek and Hebrew and has studied theology extensively. It is very convincing, and the longer you are in is the more controlling it becomes.
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: March 12, 2013 11:07AM
 
I can answer this. During the 2 years I was in the cult, I remember those who did not vote Republican being subjected to the Restoration Process. So, in that respect, yes, they did control who you voted for. Further, chapel speakers would encourage candidates. Now, my experience may be different because I lived on cult property, so I can’t speak for everybody.
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: March 12, 2013 12:51PM
 
The problem is people are trying to classify this as a “Christian church.” It is not. It is an authoritarian counseling cult. Counseling cults were all the rage back in the 1960s when Pop Psychology was moving to the forefront. Groups like Scientology, Landmark Forum, Advanced Ability Center, etc. People were looking for alternatives to psychology. These organizations offered alternative forms of counseling along with an organization for people with a common interest…
 
GCC/Masters has an elaborate counseling program designed by the techniques of John MacArthur, Wayne Mack, David Harrell, and other accomplices that is very similar to Scientology and has all of the characteristics of this type of group. They use slow indoctrination, disconnection/shunning, confession to a counselor, retaliation against those that want out, authoritarianism, etc. These types of organizations always have an elite group of followers that do the bidding for the upper management, that are completely brainwashed on all of the philosophies. These are the “goons,” and they are the ones that would do anything, even illegal, to help the organization. I would say the Wow Staffers would definitely be considered “goons.”
 
…Many may need help escaping, some have given up everything they own or all their savings to go to college and going back home is not an option, some have family that are trapped in and they will lose all of their family relationships if they leave, some have been convinced they are going to hell…
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: March 21, 2013 04:33AM
 
I think the real “goons” are the ones higher up the pyramid…Note how the third list mentions “protecting and guarding” the “Gospel” (Lordship Salvation). I have had MacArthur supporters get physically violent with me because they were defending their “Gospel.” The higher up the pyramid is the more illegal and unethical it gets, definitely resembles “goon” like behavior.
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: March 22, 2013 04:35AM
 
Even a casual reading of the Study Bible will reveal there is far more commentary than Scripture in the text. In addition, the cult sells an encyclopedia-like reference library written by MacArthur, one for each book of the Bible that fits on your shelf, each one hard-covered. I was forced to buy the one on Romans when I took the course on Romans at Masters.
 
MacArthur uses a technique called “Expository Preaching” where they take a portion of the Bible (usually out of context) and give a verse by verse commentary of the passage during the sermon, thus doing it verse-by-verse in the order that it appears in the Bible. They brag that this is the only “Biblical” way to preach and it gives the followers the illusion that the cult’s teachings are Biblical because they use this technique, thus frowning on “topical” preaching. For instance, let’s say we are having a sermon on sanctification, which is treated in Romans 8. We would start the sermon by taking verse one of Romans 8 and going verse-by-verse giving commentary, preaching on it until we are at the end of the passage. That may be an over simplification, but usually that is how MacArthur’s sermons are written, and how they train their preachers at the seminary.
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: March 28, 2013 02:58AM
 
…dazzle people with all the big words and fance terminology. After all, how can they be wrong if they have all this knowledge? This is part of the hook that keeps people in.
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: May 06, 2013 03:21AM
 
For those unfamilliar with the technique used in confessions in Lordship/Nouthetic Counseling, check earlier in this thread. Often a counselor badgers a confession out of a person while a witness is in the room badgering you too (who is supposed to be there as an independent third party), and the info is usually shared with MacArthur’s student life division (if pertaining to the college) and/or the church officials (if pertaining to the church.)
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: May 08, 2013 02:56AM
 
It is definitely a cult. They demand unquestioning obedience. You are slowly indoctrinated, at first you are not told what any of the unique beliefs are that set them apart from Christiainity. Mind control is used, which is what the counseling sessions are for. Large amounts of money are taken from followers, particularly in the college and courses, and books. They believe you must believe Lordship Salvation to be saved, either by accident or intentionally through GCC and affiliates. They retaliate against you for doubting them or leaving. You are not permitted to associate with those that leave. You are heavily disciplined or shunned for disobeying them. I think any Sociologist would agree with me that these are the characteristics of a cult.
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: May 08, 2013 03:31AM
 
When I was in the cult I did some door-to-door witnessing with them…
 
It is my opinion that they drive away more people from Christ than they lead to Him. I often heard them compare becoming a Christian to joining the military, if you’re not ready to do everything it takes to become a Christian then you are not ready to have “Genuine Saving Faith.” Simply hearing the Gospel and accepting Christ into your life/heart is never enough. Also, confrontation is highly emphasized in Lordship Salvation. Even if a person accepts Christ, they will be constantly confronted afterwards to repent of any sins that may be in their life.
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: May 14, 2013 08:40AM
 
In enforcing the list, you have to keep “growing,” constantly getting better and better, or you aren’t saved. Some mentors/counselors enforce the list in different ways.
 
I have seen some that won’t listen to rock music (I was told I was going to hell for this one many times), see R-rated movies, not have more entertainment time than time spent serving the church, etc. Eventually it drives everyone to become a perfectionist, in a depressing lifestyle where you can never do enough and are constantly being admonished for every little thing.
 
Meanwhile, the cult is led by a millionaire that has built a museum to himself, wrote his own Bible, rewrote the Gospels, came up with his own mental science, and cannot live up to his own list of standards and science.
 
Do not underestimate this cult, it is very dangerous. There’s not a whole lot I can say on here but I would be glad to talk to you via PM. You really need to get your daughter out of this cult. I know it really did a lot of damage to my life and left many emotional scars. I will keep you in my prayers.
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: June 02, 2013 07:38AM
 
Since I am still on their mailing list, I received a copy of the cult’s alumni magazine, The Master’s Current, this week. I was shocked at all the expansion they are doing and how much they are growing, and I think it shows the urgency of the need to let people know what they really stand for so they can be ‘informed consumers.’
 
A few things in the magazine bothered me. One was an alumni who said the best part of his experience at the college was the Restoration Process. It mentioned how he enjoyed watching God restoring people that he confronted and that how other “brothers” were able to confront him when he was struggling with sin so he could be restored to fellowship. The way it is worded you would have thought this guy would have been into drugs, alcohol, witchcraft, etc. This guy was actually a student body president and wow staffer and probably did very little during his time there that warranted so much confrontation. It was common for people to nit-pick you on every little thing (more entertainment than serving the church, etc.).
 
The Restoration Process is the most annoying thing about this cult IMHO. The way they can spin it into something positive amazes me. The fact that it isn’t even mentioned in the intro material on the GCC website (see earlier in this thread) shows what I mean.
 
Throughout the magazine there was mention of students and alumni going to other churches to spread the word about GCC/Masters. Some were non-Lordship churches, some weren’t.
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: June 03, 2013 05:52AM
 
In MacA’s definition of Restoration we are automatically given an assumption that Christians are constantly in a “broken relationship” with God that needs constant mending. The follower is told God will not hear their prayers, among other things unless this relationship is constantly mended. Where is the sufficiency of the Atonement of Christ? What did the blood of Christ actually accomplish?
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: August 02, 2013 03:51AM
 
I got a a package in the mail from the cult, as I am still on their mailing list. This time, it has an attractive folder with the museum on the front (the college’s Rutherford Hall converted into the “Legacy Room and Welcome Center” as discussed earlier in the thread)…
 
What bothered me the most about this letter is the ending, where it says that the financial contributions of the donors enable students to continue their schooling who otherwise couldn’t afford it. When I was there it was $20,000 per year plus expenses to attend this college. You had to sign a contract for a financial aid package where you would borrow money from numerous lenders, mostly banks that you had to agree to pay back over time on a deferrment basis, meaning they don’t start collections until graduation. They had in-house financial aid but it was on a very limited basis and to my knowledge had to all be paid back, with interest. It was normal for some hardcore believers in MacArthur to have to leave the college in tears prior to spring semester because they couldn’t get financial aid to be able to stay.
 
The letter asks you to donate at the bottom, by setting up a monthly charge on your credit card, and also has a blank to set up a place in your will to leave money to the ministry when you die. In exchange you get a copy of the book “The Glory of Heaven,” which MacA wrote to refute near-death experiences by coming up with biblical contradictions, as well as descriptions of heaven from the Bible.
 
My question is, where do these donations go? These so-called tuition grants, even if they are being given, are simply taking money from one pocket and depositing it in the other. I know I never saw them. I wound up having to get my folks to get me out of hock from these people. They threatened me with collections within weeks of me leaving the cult. If the members are paying, then why charge tuition?
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: January 18, 2014 06:51AM
 
If there are a lot of people involved it will be much harder for the cult to retaliate. Some things people need to be informed about:
The suicides
The museum he built to himself
The false claim it is “non-denominational” Christianity
The attack on psychiatry and the claim psychiatry is adding to scripture
Sending young students to dangerous areas on missions
The list of works that must be done for salvation to be realized
Nouthetic counseling and Lordship (works) salvation
Physical violence on the campus
Retaliation against former members
 
…This cult is designed to reveal a little to you at a time: first, MacArthur’s books and tapes, then Lordship Salvation and what it fully implies, then the belief against psychiatry, then Nouthetic Counseling, then having to put in long hours serving the church to prove your salvation, then going to dangerous areas, to eventually having your full life controlled by the group. If you are not doing enough you are constantly reminded you may be going to hell.
 
Think of all the young people who are hit with the flashy brochures and get sucked in right out of high school. Most people in the 17-18 yo range have not yet decided what to do with their lives, and are taken in by this thinking they are getting a non-denominational Christian education. Some actually cave-in to the pressure to convert, some who embrace it fully actually change their major to Bible and get ordained, the ones who resist even after all the “counseling” are shunned until they eventually give up and leave, with large amounts of time and money missing from their lives.
 
…You may stop thousands of kids from being taken advantage of, and may even save some lives.
 
Posted by: bjw
Date: January 21, 2014 02:04AM
 
This is a standard practice of the cult. They have two missions breaks per year where they send students on missions trips. Some go to third world countries and some have gone to very dangerous areas of South Central LA where there has been documented gang activity.
 
There has been deaths of people who have gone on missions trips. One such was documented in their own newsletter “The Masters Current.” A girl named Natalie Dyk listened to a sermon by Ray Comfort during the college chapel service just prior to the missions week saying that you wouldn’t be saved if you did not go out of your comfort zone. (It may not be word-for-word, but I was there when he said this, so I know he did, and Natalie’s journal had notes on this sermon in it when her belongings were examined, according to the article.) She went to a third world country and they did not know the roads well enough, their vehicle tipped over killing everyone inside, including Natalie. Yet, you don’t see MacArthur or [Ray] Comfort going to these places.
 
I was assigned to go to South Central LA during one missions break, I refused on account of my aunt and grandmother being ill and I would have to go home to take care of things and see about them. I was told by numerous people in the organization that I was going to Hell for not spreading the Gospel. They take the missions breaks very seriously.
 

2. Testimony of a parent whose children attend Grace Community Church

Posted by: pastrpath2
Date: October 21, 2009 06:46AM
 
In my opinion there are many cult like aspects of Grace Community. My step daughter and son in law go there. They seem to be incouraged to judge everyone else’s faith and they convey to them they are not saved because they do not live Stepford wives kind of lives. Here are some other observations.
 
1. Corrupt Leadership
a. Pope like devotion of His followers
b. Can not be criticized
c. Writings treated as authoritative as Scripture
 
2.Scripture Twisting and Redefinition of Biblical Terms
a. Faith is the power of transformation and not the Holy Spirit is the
power of transformation
b. Repentance is turning from sin to be worthy of salvation –
instead of recognition that you are helpless to save yourself and need a savior.
c. Salvation requires Lordship Submission – or works righteousness
d. The indwelling of the Holy Spirit is not a literal infilling but an
assumption of a person’s faith.
3. Doctrinal Deviation:
a. Lordship Salvation – Salvation by Works
b. Faith as a Substitute for the power of the Holy Spirit
c. Denies the reality of Holy Spirit experiences
4.Elitism:
a. Promotes the attitude of “We are the only true Christians and our church is
the only true church. And we have the only true Man of God.”
5. Control System – Public Shaming – Small Group Shepherding
6. A False priesthood mediating to the congregation – Pastor tell people the will of God instead of encouraging a personal relationship with Christ.
 

Posted by: pastrpath2

Date: October 21, 2009 09:39PM
 
I personally suffered as a pastor in a church where the elders had read MacArthur’s false teaching on Lordship Salvation called “The Gospel according to Jesus” This teaching promotes modern day Phariseism where the people no longer recognize their fallen nature and sins and rationalize their destructive actions as holy. These MacArthurphiles would rationalize lying, backbitting, destructive gosip, and harsh critisism of others and call it a holy attempt to protect God’s kingdom.
 
My experience with people from GCC is that they are encouraged either directly or more often the case subliminally to be haughty and judgemental of people outside the fellowship by judging their actions and declaring them unsaved. To them your only hope is to be rebaptized in MacArthur’s church while declairing you have conquered all sinful thoughts as well as deeds since you made Jesus Lord. Of course at the same time they lose all critical thinking about the people who lead them, especially MacArthur and treat him and the pastors as if they have no sin. If MacArthur is still a sinner, (yes Spiritual Pride at least) and the congregation discovered that truth the entire culture would collapes. The last thing you will see at GCC is people sharing their faults with one another – this would prove them an unbeliever at GCC.
 
At GCC there is a culture of worshiping John MacArthurs teaching without using any critical thinking. Just this last Sunday night I was there for a baptism. MacArthur in front of 4000 people redefined the word Faith to mean Good Works instead of trusting belief. Faith became the substitute for the power of the Holy Spirit to change the human condition. Grace is redefined as surrendered Lordship to Christ instead of unmerited favor. The atonement is limited to the elect and salvation and hell are predestined by a malicious God who has predetermined who will not recieve that grace.
 
Fatalism and spiritual striving to prove yourself worthy of being called the elect is the culture at that church. So to admit that you struggle with sinful thoughts and actions like Paul did in Romans Chapture 7 is an admission of not being saved. The culture is very much like the Stepford Wives. Everyone must put on a personna of perfection and niceness (unless we are trashing some other church or unbeliever). One of the fruits of the cultic system is that eventually every one must act alike, talk alike, dress alike and think alike in order to be percieved as one of the in crowd. Everyone will take on the personality of the leader which is seen as holy. So the culture is one of dishonesty. Lie to myself, God and others about my sinful thoughts and habits so I will not be judged as and outsider or as unsaved. Rationalize all my dysfunctional behavior and pride as part of the personality of a true believer. Everyone is pretending to be completely victorious over sin.
 
Posted by: pastrpath2
Date: October 22, 2009 06:47AM
 
I can’t give an exact quote. But the gist was Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. MacArthur said substance means lordship and obedience. He also said that his faith was the power to transform his life. His faith is the power to walk in obedience and Lordship…
 
In MacArthur land all spiritual experience of the indwellling Spirit of God is of the devil. Instead of judging the experience by the Word of God. All experience is seen as a lack of faith and cultic. Thus assuming faith is the power and legalism is the fruit. Lordship salvation makes perfect sense in a world where God never touches us and faith must assume to recieve the blessings of God instead of experiencing God when we are poor in spirit and desparately need divine intervention.
 
Posted by: pastrpath2
Date: October 23, 2009 06:04AM
 
No – what I am saying is that MacArthur thinks that grace and Holy Spirit only works in and through our intellectual faith – ergo faith is the power to transform. They call the Holy Spirit a person, but any experience of the person of the Holy Spirit is rejected as a lack of faith because faith reckons things to be true… Thus we are not supposed to experience the new birth only reckon the new birth by faith. Also we are not supposed to sin because grace and saving faith is sufficient to keep us from sinning. Their proof of the presence of the Holy Spirit is a legalistic conformity to their church doctrine, ethics and values.
 
I know it is confusing, but what I think this is, is a holiness movement that teaches a kind of total sanctification at conversion. The honest person who still allows the Holy Spirit to convict them of sin as they grow in the knowledge of Christ is rejected by GCC as unregenerate unbelievers.
 
Posted by: pastrpath2
Date: October 25, 2009 04:30AM
 
Yes…the elders of the church had been under the influence of a graduate of the Master’s college and read MacArthur’s teachings for a long time before I got there. As a result – no one in leadership could admit to being a present tense sinner less they disqualified themselves as church leaders and part of the redeemed. The concept of saints that sin was foreign to them. So they would rationalize all they did as good, like throwing tantrums in elders meetings when they did not get their way, making other people the butt of their jokes, their wives and daughters were aloud to wear provocative clothing on the worship team, they routinely used character assassination of people that got in their way and politically polarized the people for and against each others. One elder would have weekly meetings with his cronies to trash talk about everyone in the church that did not live up to his standards for any reason. Another elder would teach Sunday school classes using MacArthur material usually focused on holiness.
 
To me, a big problem was a compete lack of compassion for sinners, either in or out of the church and thus no passion to evangelize because everything was predestined to be what it would be. They tended to be rude and standoffish to visitors because if God wants them saved then they will come back and ingratiate themselves to the church and “follow what the Lord was doing there”. No outreach to the poor, because they must deserve what they are getting. In their minds they were saved because they “faithfully” came to church to do the Lord’s will each week and had a conservative statement of faith. When I preached on sin in the church and that we can all fall into self-righteous pride they finally asked me to leave – because I had removed the joy of their “salvation.” One of the elders is now attending an emergent congregation where there is no core doctrines or talk of sin only love. The other is still teaching at the church to a handful of people. This is Phariseeism – putting heavy burdens on others and not lifting a finger to help, oblivious to their own selfishness and sinfulness. They maintain their superior status by looking down on the spiritual condition of others that they determine are unworthy.
 
Posted by: pastrpath2
Date: November 02, 2009 09:16AM
 
Lordship Salvation is a violation of the entire epistle of Galatians, where Paul says that legalism that adds to Salvation is accursed by God….and another gospel. A false Gospel.. Salvation is a free gift and the new birth is not progressive. Discipleship is costly but is an outworking of salvation and not the means of it.
 

3. Testimony of a man who has witnessed churches destroyed by Macarthur’s disciples

 
Posted by: HansTaaibosch
Date: September 07, 2011 05:00AM
 
Wow. JM slays the infidels verbally wherever he finds them.
 
John “Abdullah” MacArthur needs to be exposed. His Lordship salvation has already been exposed, but his personal conduct has not. Churches in my area have been destroyed because of him, including the one where I grew up. They would never have allowed a Jehovah’s Witness, a Mormon, a Muslim, or a Roman Catholic traditionalist have positions of authority as pastor or deacons, but they permitted JM’s henchmen because they thought JM and his crew of the same mindset regarding the gospel of grace. But they were wrong, and so their church was turned into another output for JM’s variant of works salvation.
 
Lordship salvation is simply works salvation, and JM clearly teaches this.
 
JM lives as an enemy of Christ.
JM is a control freak.
JM uses humiliation and retaliation as methods of control.
JM teaches that Christians are slaves of Christ, and is very hung up on it.
JM is arrogant.
JM is cruel.
JM is self-important.
JM is just like any other cultist.
JM destroys lives.
JM denies the Lord who bought him. [Macarthur has denied the blood of Jesus Christ for 40 years]
JM is an empty field, twice dead, bearing thorns and thistles.
According to his own book “Beware the Pretenders”, we need to beware JM. The shoe fits.
 
Mohammed had an agenda: build a harem, so he can molest kids.
JM also has an agenda: strip Christians of blessed assurance.
“Islam” means “submitter”.
JM has also founded a society of submitters. He treats them like slaves. One of his books teaches that Christians are slaves of Christ, submitters (“Muslims”) to his Lordship.

4. Testimony of a Christian who has been damaged by John Macarthur and his followers
 
Posted by: Marmy
Date: December 31, 2011 07:57PM
 
I’ve been greatly damaged by the teachings of this man and his followers, even years after leaving the church. There’s really nothing to be gained by trying to explain the hurt to his supporters because they know how to manipulate any interaction by Godifying their narrow, unshakable truth. And yes, it’s theirs, not His.
 
Posted by: Marmy
Date: August 25, 2012 12:51AM
 
I have a lot of experience in dealing with MacArthur types, including several of his protégées and followers. What I’ve learned is that what matters to them is seeking or creating debate and controversy whenever and wherever they can so they can win with their theological superiority and manipulation. When they need to play a trump card, it’s “truth”. Their truth, lower case “t”.
 

5. Testimony of a Christian who has experienced the Cultic control techniques of Macarthur’s disciples

 
Posted by: CarlKolchak
Date: March 14, 2012 08:53PM
 
…I find this heretical, works salvation writ large. It probably came in part from teachings said pastor was exposed to in youth, but it appears by the info on this thread it was bolstered by his years at McArthur’s sem, which I have to now regard as cultic, probably heretical.
 
Posted by: CarlKolchak
Date: March 14, 2012 10:58PM
 
Just suffice it to say that I have personal and extensive experience that at least one of those pastors educated in McArthur’s seminary (he was also a former staff member at GCC, who personally knew and worked under McArthur)…Also, the pastor I mentioned above ran his church precisely per the GCC model discussed, with the cultic control techniques, false advertising until you’re in too deep, inability to stand questioning of his positions, etc. McArthur’s influence spreads far beyond Southern California, it is a style practiced by his former acolytes all over the country.
 

6. Testimony of a Christian whose daughter is a member of Macarthur’s church

 
Posted by: mhbm
Date: April 26, 2012 05:57AM
 
My daughter is a member of GCC, and she has turned into a person I don’t recognize anymore. I can’t even have a relationship with her without her condemning me in every way.
 
Posted by: mhbm
Date: February 11, 2013 08:42PM
 
Has anyone had any experience with shunning by MacArthur followers? My daughter has just informed me that I am no longer welcome in her home because of my affiliation with a volunteer organization that is Catholic, in nature citing 1 Cor. 5:11, Rom. 16:17, and 2 Th. 3:14-15 as her basis for this.
 
Posted by: mhbm
Date: February 13, 2013 12:16AM
 
Another similarity is that she pleads with me to repent, but I get the strong impression that I must repent to her, which would be like confessing to a priest, wouldn’t it?
 
Posted by: mhbm
Date: February 14, 2013 02:59AM
 
They are very judgmental, very critical. The joy, spontaneity, creativity, and sense of humor in my daughter is nowhere to be seen anymore since she joined that church.
 
Posted by: mhbm
Date: February 19, 2013 10:25PM
 
A couple years ago, when we were having a not-so-pleasant phone conversation, she stated, “I’m not in a cult.” I had not said anything about her being in a cult at that time, and I really didn’t think she was then, but I could tell that GCC was having an affect on her views…
 
I am indeed praying for her daily. I have found it difficult in the last few weeks to contact her at all, as it always deteriorates into a criticism/judgment/condemnation session. which I don’t want to be a part of. I am praying Isaiah 49:25 over the situation. “I will contend with him that contends with you, and I will save your children.”
 
Posted by: mhbm
Date: February 23, 2013 09:33AM
 
I truly believe that if I were to tell her I have resigned from this volunteer ministry, that it would not make a difference. She wound find some other reason to condemn me, and the outcome would be the same.
 
Posted by: mhbm
Date: February 26, 2013 09:36AM
 
I took a look at the MacArthur Bible tonight out of curiosity. It has way more notes than there is scripture on each page. So, if one were to “study the Bible,” it they would be giving more attention to the notes than the actual scripture in my opinion. She claimed to have made her decision to not welcome me into her home any more based on her study of the Bible, specifically Romans 16:17. She wasn’t studying scripture at all. She was studying J.M.’s notes. The very sentence she used in her email was directly from his notes in his study Bible.
 
Posted by: mhbm
Date: May 14, 2013 04:12PM
 
I would love nothing more than to get her out of this cult. If you have any suggestions, I am all ears.
 

7. Testimony of a Christian regarding the destruction of Christians churches infiltrated by Macarthur’s disciples

Posted by: gracetowho?
Date: August 11, 2012 09:30PM
 
…what the Master MC-A College student said about them infiltrating
churches was EXACTLY what we experienced.
 
1. They say they are non-denom. All doctrine statements are
completely neutral.
2. once you are there, they try to indoctrinate you with Calvinism on steriods
BUT if you say anything even slightly deviating from John Mac
you are now spied on for “charges” of anything from changing light bulbs
“without permission” to “trying to take over the church” ” having pride”
with vulgar or shaming language, they are called ” breaking sessions” in cults.
The purpose is not to correct you, it’s to destroy your worth as
a person. The fear and eggshell walking was ridiculous.
But what was interesting and cult like- is that when you would
talk to a long time staffer, ask a question, about ANYTHING, they would
pause for like 5 seconds, think. then respond. I even asked one woman
“are you self editing
to make sure your response is perfect?”
She said Yes, I guess I do.
 
That is how it is in these churches.
 
You must be perfect, act perfect, but it is fine to lie, slander
scream and yell and spy on people who are suddenly “wolves”
(wolf – anyone not into JM worship)
and God help the person who believes in the gifts of the Holy Spirit.
Definitely you are demon possessed,* because everyone knows, all gifts
ceased* except of course teaching, administration, giving and helps in children’s ministry!
the only way to show you are saved is to become their slave.
 
Posted by: gracetowho?
Date: August 11, 2012 09:49PM
 
Sorry Mark, didn’t answer one of your questions.
YES. They completely intimidated people into silence,
one associate pastor was the church “whipping boy” –
when he witnessed what was done to my husband in a “shaming session”
he said it made him sick and he was going to “do something” about it
but the pastor and staffed shamed him by saying he was being
“divisive” and was ORDERED to not speak to us again!
Imagine that! a 50+ yr old man ordered to be silent and accepting it!
I feel so sad for him, he has no idea what real grace is, trying
to jump through their fire hoops.
 
Two ways to get along in these churches, bullying (seared conscience)
or being bullied (shamed – blamed and scapegoated, trying to prove you are “good enough”)
the congregants know very little about what go on in staff
meetings/ leadership from what I could tell. It’s all hush hush.
 
Posted by: gracetowho?
Date: January 20, 2013 02:52AM
 
Wow, what a sad but ringingly true commentary of the man who is the “pope of protestantism.”
 
Several of us have been victims of the “mini Johns” he sends out, he does many many takeovers of churches with his Disciples that come out of masters college.
 
I do not know him, but was treated so badly and in a very very evil but similiar way,
2000 miles apart from Jmac cloned churches,
Thats How i put it together, JMac is the author of this evil.
 
If I see any quotes, literature or john mac bible studies at a church, I hit the floor to run out, he’s in the middle of a takeover with a minion. [I can recount the sad stories of Christians in churches taken over by Macarthur’s minions.]
 
Tell me, I have seen him teach on a few youtubes, he reeks of pride and arrogance and sarcasm,
why do people love him soooo much?
 
Posted by: gracetowho?
Date: January 20, 2013 11:41PM
 
Who exactly is the one doling out the Grace of God?
And to whom? Does John MacArthur have some sort of
franchise set up with the God of the Universe?
 
“Grace to you” reminds me of Lucy’s lemonade stand
from peanuts cartoon strip
“all you can drink lemonade”
is what the sign says, then,
while someone is drinking it,
she grabs it back and says
“that’s all YOU can drink!”
Ok -enough humor, now my rage…
 
I am so angry that this whitewashed sepulcher
is so taking over Christendom.
No Love
No Holy Spirit
No Joy
Fear and Condemnation for those struggling with mental
health – depression- anxiety,
I could weep for hours over the poor
women I’ve counseled who
were in such horrible bondage
because they were depressed…
therefore in sin
( according to the idiotic theology of JM)
and were not allowed to take medication…
because….that too is a sin –
so they became suicidal.
 
WHAT KIND OF DOCTRINE OF HELL IS THAT!!!!!??????
Yes John MacAuthur you make them twice
the child of a living Hell!!!!
 
That man makes life a living hell for the most needy
hurting and vulnerable Christians – I pray someone
presses criminal charges against that miserable misery making Pharisee.
 
Yes John Macarthur there’s some things
that can cause despair
and telling people they don’t “understand
the bible enough” is
the cause of their problems is repugnant.
you are repugnant. How dare you!!!!
 
Posted by: gracetowho?
Date: February 12, 2013 11:08PM
 
Yes, Shunning is the primary means of
control in John Macarthur influenced
churches – Shunning and Shaming.
 
It is also what typical cults do.
 
Guilt is a powerful motivator so John Macaurthur
must shame his followers into following his dictates
or they to will be shunned.
It’s a pretty well documented way to control people.
 
It’s very hard to control Free people, so John MacArthur must
inculcate into his followers that they are not Free in Christ, that
they must have a constant conscienceness of their sin
sin sin.
 
So they spend their lives trying to rid themselves of
sin to get some relief, so getting rid of you…
provides some temporary
relief….until the next sermon.
 
This is a living hell your daughter is involved with.
 
This is completely opposed to the gospel which
pronounced us Forgiven! by faith in Christ!
Free from condemnation!
 
Those that Know they are Free would not fall for
this bondage theology – you only need to read
the book of Galatians to see John MacArthur is
a Judaizer, adding to the gospel of Jesus, therefore
nullifying it.
 
The last thing John Macarhurites let you know is
if you do leave their church you are in sin
and therefore going to hell.
 
Interesting that your daughter is shunning you
over helping out the Catholics …
John MacArthurs theology and practice has much
more in common with Catholicism than
normal Christianity which is:
 
Faith in Christ = Salvation unto good works.
Catholicism is:
Faith in Christ plus Good Works = Salvation.
 
John Macarthur preaches a false gospel. [Note: Calvinism or Reformed Theology is the theology of the reformation of the Roman Catholic Church]
 
Posted by: gracetowho?
Date: February 13, 2013 01:08AM
 
Yes, the spiritual Elitism John Macarthur breeds into his victims, along with the constant, but subtle, condemnation, turns a person into a desperately condemned person who must go out and find others to bring them into the same bondage, “to glory in the flesh” as Paul wrote in his Epistle to the Galatians….
 
So you have really worried, anxious people…. worried about “swallowing a gnat” and going to hell
Or the ones who are “given past feeling” they become arrogant sin sniffers…those are the ones that cause the greatest harm, the mini-johns.
 
Your daughter has probably gone thru the frenetic nouthetic course,
which bases all your problems on some on confessed sin in your life.
 
I would go to the book of galatians, copy and paste the whole thing on an email,
PUTTING HER NAME WHERE IT SAYS,
“They”
And send it to her….And pray!.
 
Posted by: gracetowho?
Date: February 23, 2013 09:18AM
 
Just to condense what John Macarthur is saying:
 
“Any Christian who thinks they are having a direct
encounter with the Living God,
through feelings, experience or prayer, is most likely
interacting and being deceived by satan.”
 
To me, this would insure that followers of John
macarthur would make sure they don’t have any
feelings whatsoever, they might be doing
something satanic.
 
And…if the Holy Spirit was to actually move in
someone life, the follower of John Macarthur
would be frightened, not blessed.
 
What does a MacArthurite have left in such a sterile,
non-feeling, “God in a box” religion?
 
Posted by: gracetowho?
Date: March 01, 2013 01:14AM
 
…another paradoxical thing we came up against in these John Macarthurite
Churches.  When we explained to people why we left the church, outlining the abuse done to us and having witnessed others being abused, we often heard some variation of this:
 
“Im so sorry that happened to you, and truly I believe you, but the Teaching here is So Good,
would you forgive me if I stayed?  We are really growing in the Lord!”
 
Now, if that doesn’t make your theological head spin right off your neck and fly out the window, I dont know what does.
 
Posted by: gracetowho?
Date: March 03, 2013 04:46PM
 
I think the other hook about JM and his minions,
is if you have an IQ higher than 75,
it’s very hard to find bible teachers that
have something intelligent to say,
which is incredibly sad, because the bible
is a treasure trove of precious gems just waiting
to be mined by even the most casual reader.
 
That is a Big Hook for these people.
I have heard them say “where else would I go”?
( don’t like being abused, I don’t like the brutal politics and people disappearing,
I don’t like being afraid of be shunned, but Who is as Gooooood a teacher?)
 
John Macarthur doesn’t have the corner
market on arrogance either.
He just happens to have not fallen into
adultery either, so he’s supposely one of the “good guys”
 
It’s a large case of Stockholm Syndrome [They love their captor and their captivity].
 
Posted by: gracetowho?
Date: March 11, 2013 10:46AM
 
I wonder if John Macarthur would have us take the
mark of the Beast, to submit to authorities?
I wonder how many of JMs worshippers would do it?
[Note: Macarthur does indeed teach that it’s OK to take the Mark of the Beast and it’s my firm belief that he is now conditioning his followers to take it.  See Paganizing the Christian Church to learn more.]
 
What an amazing flavored Kool-Aid he peddles,
its called…Slave.
 
Sorry John Macarthur- here’s a News Flash
for ya.. I am a Blood bought child of the Living
God, holy and beloved – accepted in the beloved.
 
Posted by: gracetowho?
Date: March 23, 2013 06:23AM
 
Lassotheglen,
 
You have an excellent grasp at what is going on in Christendom, They. Are. Taking. Over  They have a plan and are executing it all over the world.
 
The last two churches I attended said they were Non denominational, in their doctrinal statements and even membership Classes, Then, when it comes out you are not a Calvinist ( Reformed) and do not admire and love John Macarthur (after attending for 2 or 3 years!!) as if he was the Messiah, that is the end of fellowship and the beginning of spying, slander, smear tactics legally actionable behaviour.
 
I still wonder if I should sue them, as Mark said they need to be Shut Down!!!
 
Posted by: gracetowho?
Date: March 26, 2013 04:54AM
 
(Hopefully, the “Evangelical Pope” , John MacArthur,
will be dethroned before a spirit of persecution rises up among his followers.)
 
…..uhhhh, ya! they are already here!  If they all want to follow that foul doctrine and
live miserable lives following John Macarthur, Fine.
 
I am here because his “master pastor factory”
are slanderers,
liars,
treacherous,
they will make you Pay if you leave
the church, shunning is nothing compared to
the libel and emotional and spiritual torture.
They go after you, even after you leave with
stories about you that people believe, cuz
“pastors and elders would never lie”
so How do you fight that?
 
It Sucketh rotten eggs.
 
So I am turning that frown upside down and exposing
this unfruitful work of darkness.
 
The worst thing I ever did was attend John Macarthur
takeover satellite churches. Had to move from my home
because of the persecution.
 
Again, I didn’t know they were Calvinist – they said they were
neutral on the subject. No kidding.
 
Posted by: gracetowho?
Date: March 28, 2013 02:19AM
 
It seems to me the fruit of Calvinism is still doing its dirty
deeds today amongst his followers – they just can’t kill
you. But they can destroy a lot of things in a persons life.
I know.
 
Posted by: gracetowho?
Date: March 28, 2013 04:10AM
 
OR [they] do what John Macarthur does,
Makes Sure You Are A Christian By Examining
Your Life And Making Sure You Submit To All Authority, BlaBlah Blah.
The New Sharia Christians.
 
Posted by: gracetowho?
Date: April 01, 2013 10:39AM
 
Thanks for bringing us back to the main
topic :
 
John MacArthur confuses repentance with the fruits of repentance,
and also to confuse faith with that which faith ought to produce.
He confuses saving faith (which takes place in a moment of time–Rom. 13:11; Eph. 1:13)
with discipleship (which is a lifelong process).
 
It has been said, “Lordship salvation is not the childlike faith of John 3:16.
It insists upon repentance but includes a change of behavior IN ORDER TO BE SAVED
Lordship advocates attempt to make behavior and fruit essential ingredients of, rather than evidence of, saving faith”
 
John MacArthur and his disciples preach a false gospel of
terrible consequences in this life and the next.
 
Posted by: gracetowho?
Date: May 11, 2013 07:29PM
 
Hi Everyone,
 
Here’s an article on breaking sessions,
 
Quote~
Breaking sessions are one of the methods used by extreme groups as a way of identity destruction .
Bombard them with accusations….
The basic scenario is to isolate the person and to start accusing them of various transgressions. It may start with small things that is easy for them to admit and then steadily escalate with admonishments of breaking important values and even being fundamentally bad and shameful.
This process may well be done by a number of people. The more people and the higher up in the group they are, the more effective this method becomes. Few people can ignore accusations flying at them from all angles and especially from people they have grown to love and respect.
Keep going until they crack….
The point of this session is to push them past a cracking point, similar to when a person has a nervous breakdown and the session may continue well past the point where the person is huddled in a fetal position, rocking back and forth and weeping uncontrollably.
In doing this, the group wears down their sense of identity, in order to effectively destroy their personality and makes them flee from who they are. Thus this method is literally a way of character assassination.
Remake them…
When the person has cracked, the next step is to approach them with kindness, to show that they are now forgiven and accepted again. They may be hugged and patted. This is done by a senior member of the group. This casts the group back into the kind and loving frame and offers a lifeline to the broken person, who of course grasps at this straw. Very gratefully, they now listen to and accept what this person has to say.
In this way, they are now remade in the shape of a conforming member of the group who is totally obedient to senior group members. ~ End Quote
[Note: This “Dialectic Process” is going on at Macarthur’s church.  These “breaking” sessions are called “Discussion Groups”]
 
~ THIS is what John MacArthur -ites do for “church discipline”
 
And if you defy them – you are labeled a wolf or shunned. There needs to be a law against this
incredible evil. It’s not counseling or discipline, it’s just abuse, they only difference is they don’t
grab you off the street and keep you in chains in the basement –
 
They imprison you with the fear of losing your salvation. Despicable.
 
To anyone reading this post still in a John Macarthur
influenced church, Run! Run! Run for your lives!!
If it feels weird…It Is Weird! And gets Weirder!
 
Posted by: gracetowho?
Date: May 14, 2013 09:50AM
 
I think bjws assessment may be more correct, because, if you didn’t go in a perfectionist
you surely become one after the brainwashing.
 
Or lose your salvation.
 
It is a very dangerous cult.
John Macarthur, de facto Accuser of the brethren.
 
How he makes a “ministry” out of
it is beyond my human faculties.
 
Posted by: gracetowho?
Date: June 02, 2013 09:01AM
 
BUT THIS is what actually happens in John Macarthur
controlled & influenced churches:
 
They are called “Breaking Sessions”
 
Breaking sessions are one of the methods used by
extreme groups as a way of “identity destruction .”
 
Bombard them with accusations.
 
The basic scenario is to isolate the person and to start
accusing them of various transgressions.
It may start with small things that is easy for them
to admit and then steadily escalate with admonishments of breaking important values
and even of BEING fundamentally bad and shameful.
 
This process may well be done by a number of people.
The more people and the higher up in the group they are,
the more effective this method becomes.
 
Few people can ignore accusations flying at them
from all angles and especially from people they have
grown to love and respect.
 
Keep going until they crack.
 
The point of this session is to push them past
a cracking point, similar to when a person has a
nervous breakdown and the session may continue
well past the point where the person is huddled
in a fetal position, rocking back and forth and weeping uncontrollably.
 
In doing this, the group wears down their sense of identity,
in order to effectively destroy their personality and makes
them flee from who they are. Thus this method is literally
a way of character assassination.
 
Remake them
 
When the person has cracked, the next step is
to approach them with kindness, to show that they are
now forgiven and accepted again. They may be hugged and patted.
This is done by a senior member of the group.
This casts the group back into the kind and loving frame
and offers a lifeline to the broken person, who of course
grasps at this straw. Very gratefully, they now listen to and
accept what this person has to say.
In this way, they are now remade in the shape of a
conforming member of the group who is totally obedient to senior group members.
 
BREAKING THEM DOWN AND REMAKING THEM IN
THE IMAGE OF THEIR LORD JOHN MAC ARTHUR
 
They didn’t learn this from Christ.
 
Posted by: gracetowho?
Date: June 03, 2013 09:28AM
 
I would like to examine this quote from the John MacArthur
Restoration definition…..
 
“This means that all believers are STILL struggling against sin.
The question is NOT will sin be present on our campus,
the question is WHAT WE WILL DO about it. (emphasis mine)
 
By John MacArthur’s own admission,
there can never be what he calls “restoration”
 
Because according to him, you are constantly “struggling” against sin.
 
This clearly defines the duplicite nature
Of John MacArthur’s theology,
because you cannot be experiencing
assurance of salvation
If you are still sinning, but you shall forever be Struggling with sin.
 
Yikes!
John MacArthur is a theological horror story!
 
If the Son sets you Free, you are Free indeed!
Stop putting yourselves under his yoke of bondage!
 
Are you saved by Grace through Faith as a gift
Of God?
Or of Works?
If you think your works can save you
Than you must keep the whole law!
 
If you are under the Law than you are under the Curse.
Galatians 1
 
John MacArthur preaches an “another gospel” which
Puts people under a curse.
 
Paul the Apostal said “let him be accursed who preaches
Another gospel.”
Yes that includes John MacArthur.
 
Jesus said you can hang the whole law on Loving God
with all your being
and loving your neighbor as yourself.
 
Has anyone here ever wondered why Christian Love is missing
at your church??????
 

8. Testimony of a Christian whose father’s church was taken over by Macarthur’s “sect.”
 
Posted by: teacher
Date: November 07, 2012 09:29PM
 
…the followers [of John Macarthur] who lead the churches, at least the one I know, are liars and dictators.
 
Posted by: teacher
Date: November 13, 2012 02:00PM
 
If someone had told me that I would have seen my dad’s church taken over by a sect I would never have believed it. The story is long and yet frightfully simple: MacArthur has set his eyes on Sicily and one of his pastors has taken over first the church (my father served their with a US based mission for basically ever!) and a few months later the actual mission – now appointed executive director. He has banned the fellowship from having to do with our family (my parents were kicked out of the mission house and moved up north to live with me). They have no support of any kind from the fellowship (I mean emotional not financial because my father never recieved a penny from the church in all his years of service), no word from members of the original mission whom have known them for years and years. The MacArthur pastor is against women working or speaking – and I stood up against him and the way he treated my dad (who is over 80!) so I guess (being a woman) he really dislikes me. People who have known us all our lives no longer speak to us (by phone because we live far away) and I know that in the actual church he has banned those he disagrees with and some he “allows” to attend but they must notify their absence if they cannot go. I can not believe what I am seeing and hearing and the pain and distress it is causing. I googled and found info and all fell into place – this is a sect and they want followers. So what can I do? Can we not team up and get a web page with documentation translated in different languages? I am willing. I am graduated in International Communications. I am not a member but am living the ruin of the church and some of the people in my own life. These people have no love, no respect, no grace…nothing. They are blinded and it’s necessary to have something up so that if people want to know the truth behind the lies it is available for them: their choice to believe it or not. False prohets in sheep’s clothing. I feel very alone.
 
Posted by: teacher
Date: November 23, 2012 02:03PM
 
…I am more concerned about the terrible way “sinners” get treated in these communities [surrounding Macarthur’s church sect]: shunned, insulted, offended, put aside, made fearful…It is all so ANTI_CHRIST.
 
Peace to all of you – for me it is not do with War but with a Lack of Love. I have been accused of wanting to get my own back on these people because of the pain they have caused my family. That is wrong. I am broken but not on the ground. The Love of Christ in my Life is Greater!
 
Posted by: teacher
Date: January 23, 2013 04:56PM
 
…I have realized that there is a lot of fear amongst “survivors” and also those who are entangled in the web of deception with little power of decision. I had the feeling for a long time that we were dealing with a spiritual (and I mean that word) attack in my dad’s ex-church – for many months I was confused. Then God gave me the answer: ok it wasn’t what I was expecting but he opened my eyes. I had smacked straight into a sect….
 
Posted by: teacher
Date: February 13, 2013 02:09PM
 
…Shunning is one psychological technique used by Macarthurists and as far as I am concerned it is also one of the most damaging. It can really split people up… How can anyone think there is our God in all this? It remains a mystery to me.
 
Posted by: teacher
Date: March 06, 2013 01:08PM
 
I have asked all of you if you would like to participate in the creation and development of an informative website in as many languages as possible which will allow all those who search to read the truth behind the Mac Arthurist sect/cult. At present I am working on the Italian side but I also have a friend who will be doing the German translation. Another friend will build the website together with me.

9. Testimony of a Christian who knows John Macarthur personally and who was a member of Grace Church for 20 years
 
Posted by: Mysteryofthegospel
Date: January 19, 2013 04:51AM
 
I have some information that might help you to evaluation both Grace Community Church and John MacArthur. I was a member of Grace for twenty years. I know John personally and have attended studies at the Master’s College under their Professional Bible Program.
 
Posted by: Mysteryofthegospel
Date: January 20, 2013 12:46AM
 
Let me say this: Grace was the name of the church before John got there. The church was started by six families in a chicken coup and they believed in the Grace of God, so they named the church because they wanted to reach out to the community. Now Grace is not an issue at this church. There is no grace, there is no love, there is no Holy Spirit.
 
I arrived at Grace in 1973. John had been at the church for three years. I had gone to Grace before John arrived before I went to Bible school in 1966. The church was friendly and had about 300 members. I first came in contact with the MacArthurs through John’s dad Dr. Jack. When I left school, I went to a couple of youth rallies where John was the main speaker. This was before he became Senior Pastor at Grace. His messages were very biblical as far as I could tell, but what struck me was his arrogance in his preaching. I decided I was not going back to Grace when I found out he was going to be pastor. There were two pastors before him. Dr. Don Householder was very compassionate and loved people. The church as very close-knitted. I can remember them having pot lucks so that everyone could get to know each other. It reminded me of Acts 2. Dr Don. prayed for me for six years for me to come to know Christ as my Lord and Savior. He knew me through my mother and neighbors who were quite involved. I resisted and resisted until I went forward at the Billy Graham Crusade. Dr. Don was thrilled. At the time I was in the service so I didn’t have much church experience. After I got out, I attended Grace for three weeks because I had been accepted to Bible School in Colorado. Dr. Don passes away and Grace had a new pastor, Richard Elvie. He was very encouraging to me in my desire to go into full time Christian service.
 
I first found out about Calvinism and Reformed Theology because more of my professors at school came from Dallas Theological Seminary. So when I came to Grace for good in 1973, I was familiar with their TULIP type attitude toward the Bible. I said earlier that I didn’t want to go to Grace because of John’s arrogance. But I had to lay that aside because John helped me through a divorce with his teaching in Ephesians 5 and 1 Corinthians 7 on what God Thinks of Divorce after my first wife left me due to the false teaching of another church where the pastors where attending Talbot Theological Seminary, the same seminary John came from. To tell you the truth, I now call it a cemetery. The reason is, Reformed Theology takes compassion and turns it into stoicism, which in my opinion is deadly if you are to call yourself a child of God. When I first arrived at Grace, I ate up what MacArthur said on his tapes. I loved his teaching in the gospel of John and Ephesians because I learned so much about who I was in Christ. Ever since I went forward at the Crusade, I wanted to know God and I wanted to know the Word of God. John MacArthur helped me with this to some extent. That is what drew me to his teaching. Most of the people on staff were home grown. They all attended Talbot. They would meet at Grace and go down to Talbot in a van. What I noticed in these men is that they became products of John MacArthur. They were indoctrinated with Reformed Theology and when they spoke, it was almost like John spoke through them except he was more skilled in communication and confidence. I hope that makes sense. John found other churches for them to speak and many of them got their so called call from John’s reputation.
 
Before 1985, Grace had an evangelism program where you as a member could get trained to share the gospel. I say this because before 1985 the focus was on the church, the body of Christ. John would have a section in the service called the living church where people in the congregation could share what God is doing in their lives. However, after the Master’s College came into play that all changed. Along with the school, the focus of ministry changed. There was no more evangelistic trainings, no more living church. The focus was on the college. John would talk strictly about the school. Master’s College this and Master’s College that. Then I saw elder splits because some didn’t like what John was doing. If you didn’t like what John was doing, you were out the door. If you didn’t abide to the standards of John’s rules tou were disciplined. There were so many families that were ruined because of John’s stoic attitude about the Bible. The more Grace grew, the more complex the church got. You saw older people leaving, many of which I knew because I worked with their kids in AWANA (20 years at that church). In 1990 my wife and I left Grace and went to a church in Washington state where the pastor was a graduate at the seminary at Master’s. Oh yes I forgot about the seminary. That was another change. In stead of the focus being on Grace as a church, it was on Grace as an institution. John brought men from outside to teach the students and along with those came a lot of different ideas such as neuthetic counseling which was originated by Jay Adams. I read the book, and to tell you the truth it made me sick because it had such a hunanistic view of what I believe God desires for our life if we are to know Him. Anyway, at this church in Washington, I could see in this pastor the same dictatorship that I began to see in John. Only, I was blinded in the case of John because I loved the church and I loved the teaching and I knew John to some extent as a person. The problem was, the more Grace became institutionalize, the less personal John became and the more judgmental he became. I didn’t see this until I saw it in this other pastor in Washington. There were cell groups. Does that sound familiar. Have you heard of the cell groups they have at Grace in the singles fellowship classes called the Guild? Anyway, this pastor would have facilitators in each group. You had to take the pastors messages and in your journal write down sin problems you are dealing with then report those to the group. The facilitators would then report it to this pastor so that if you left, he could use this against you and all you an apostate. If was awful. This was a man that was taught by the seminary under John MacArthur. Because of my Bible knowledge, I knew this was wrong and because I was a God seeker, I began to study the Bible on my own. I wanted to be a good Berean so I studied the book of John. I let the Spirit of God be my teacher. I can tell you that it changed my life. It drew me closer and closer to God by allowing the Spirit in my inner man teach me the depths of Christ. I don’t want to go into that now. What I did want to share is, I saw things at this Washington church and I wrote John MacArthur several times. He wrote me a couple of times, but the attitude was, “What can I do about it?”
 
In 1993 I left this church. I felt so free when I got out of there. A few weeks later my dad got sick, so my wife and I left Washington and came back to California. I wanted to go back to Grace. When we got back, the whole of Grace had changed. The elders were no more people grown from the local assembly. Grace became a zoo on Sunday mornings. John’s teachings were more judgmental that teaching about Christ in you the hope of glory. Someone mentioned about the worship of the offering plate. I was there the Sunday morning when John said that. That is absolutely accurate. The idea of works salvation was not always there at Grace. It became more evident when John started going to other religious organizations and brought men from outside to the Shepherd’s conferences. The whole of the church now is a works system of Christianity. It is strictly sin and sin replacement and obedience. When I left Grace in 1996, John called me and told me he loved me. A few weeks later, he indirectly called me as having seducing spirits. Where is the love in that! That is what John has become. A dictator, with a humanistic view of the Bible. He is quick to judge others and slow to take constructive criticism from others. You just don’t tell MacArthur he is wrong. The seminary is like he wants to make little MacArthurites to follow his path of thinking. I found myself trapped when I was at this church. I thank God that the Spirit gave me the wisdom to get out in 1996 because I understand it is worse now. I can tell you this. In the 20 years I was at Grace, I never heard John speak of a time in his life when he realized he was a sinner who completely falls short of the glory of God and that he repented and fell on his knees as a beggar. In a testimony with Phil Johnson a few years ago, I remember him saying, “There was never a time in my life I didn’t love Christ.” If I read Romans 1 correctly, there is not a person alive who before he resigns himself to God’s truth that does not suppress the truth in unrighteousness and that includes your truly. However John does not admit that about himself. It is like because he is called to preach he is exempt. He calls his calling to the ministry a “special grace.” What is so special about how God deals with him and how God deals with us? That is my question. And in the twenty years, I never saw a humble, meek man in the pulpit. On several occasions he would share something like this. “Well, just when I am ready to get into a good sin, I think of this Bible verse or that Bible verse, and that temptation is gone.” To tell you the truth I didn’t think any sin was good. God is the opposite of sin, so why call sin good? Also, I don’t think anyone is exempt from sin. He thinks he is exempt from this and because he has a special calling he has the right to judge others. However, he cannot even judge himself.
 
I could say more, but I’ll let you make comments and we can discuss this more. I love John and I love that church at least for what it was. I still have friends there. I have kids that I ministered to and have grown up that I worked with in AWANA. I am sadden to have to talk about someone I admired for so long and a church where I first went to when I came to know Christ as my Lord and Savior. However, when I hear about John and Grace, I get stirred up. I have written to him several times and never gotten a response until last week. I won’t share the letter now, but I will say it wasn’t very nice.
 
I think the more we can expose this man, the more people who have been influenced by him around the world can be free to allow the Holy Spirit to lead their lives in righteousness, holiness and true godliness because the only way that can happen is if God operates his life in us through His Spirit and not through the teachings of Reformed Theology, or a works based salvation. I think a lot of people that go to Grace or churches that are influenced by Grace or by John MacArthur need to be more aware of what is happening there otherwise when they face Christ after they die, they are going to beg like the rich man in Luke 16.
 
Posted by: Mysteryofthegospel
Date: January 20, 2013 05:55AM
 
To answer your question [why do people love Macarthur so much?]. I can think of a few reasons and I’ll share those with you.
 
First, as large as Grace is, few really have a good view of the Bible. They rely so much on John’s teaching them that they cannot discern humanism from true spiritually which I believe can only be discerned by the teaching of the Holy Spirit. I think this is true whether you are a member of the congregation, or at either school. Most of the students are young. They haven’t been seasoned so it is easy of John to sink his teeth into their minds and presto, they become mini Johns as you said. This is why you really have to study the word and let the Holy Spirit teach you the depths of God. I didn’t do that the first 17 years I was at Grace. I got caught up in the web of thinking John had the ultimate truth. I can remember one time going into a Burger King and this fellow dressed in a police uniform started talking about John MacArthur. This was after my wife and I left. By his conversation, you would have thought that you were at the Vatican and worshiped the pope. MacArthur could do no wrong. That is how convincing he can be to his people. He appears to have the Bible down cold that is very appealing to a person who is young and searching. To me, that is a crime because these people are getting the wrong information from a guy to is worse than a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
 
Second, John does so much criticizing of national groups and national disasters that it makes you feel safe to be in a place where God is blessing in the midst of a nation that is falling apart on so many fronts as you know. MacArthur uses the Bible to spill out the judgment of God on anything that will make him an authority of God. He will take scripture out of context and skip portions of scripture to get from one point to another. I don’t read many of his commentaries because like you I run the other way due to the fact that I know he is bias on so many issues that are controversial. He makes you think he is an expert on all human issues and that God is using him to judge sin and the world in that respect. Talk about the power of the god of this world. He is it. However, that makes people feel good about themselves as long as they side with him.
 
Third, to go along with that, the church believes so much on disciple and obedience that if you get out of line one time, you are named in front of thousands of people. I personally do not believe Matthew 18 speaks of church discipline. The context has nothing to do with a church as we think of it today. Yet, Grace uses this to extreme in people who are a threat to John’s principles and rules. Those that bear witness to this name calling have to feel pretty about themselves that someone else is called out and not them. That has to make them feel they are pretty secure between them and God. I know of at least five families personally who have gotten divorces because Grace has called out one member leaving the other member feel he has the right to divorce even though John preaches against divorce. The kids of one family of which I have worked with in AWANA, all began using drugs because they could not cope with what was going on between their parents. But this part is kept quiet to the rest of the congregation.
 
Fourth, the Shepherds Conference has a big impact with the members and attenders at Grace. Having pastors come in from other parts of the country gives you the idea that God is really at work at this church just like He was when Paul went out on his three missionary journeys. Believe me, there is a lot of difference between the gospel of the first century church and the message that John MacArthur teaches. Again, there is security that God is working at this church and that explains why they love him so much and keep coming back.
 
Fifth, they have a very good children’s programs and they have so many other programs so that people can get involved. You feel like you are serving the Lord when you can get involved. It is a place where you can drop off your kids and do what you want to do and know that people will take care of them while your doing something else. I have had parents come to me in appreciation for loving their children. That makes me feel good as a servant of God. That is the part I miss at that church. John has a way of making you feel you belong there when he exalts the ministries of Grace from the pulpit.
 
Sixth, the schools have a big role in keeping people at the church. Many of the students go there and many of the young people from families that are members of Grace go there. With the Master’s College and Master’s Seminary, you get the idea that God is at work and there is no other place to go to get God’s blessing. I don’t know if they have this anymore, but they used to have an opportunity sheet. The purpose is to either submit needs you may have or submit solutions you may have available to meet a need. It would sort of be like they did in Acts 2 except instead of the Holy Spirit doing the work and filling the need of all so that there was no need and they could worship together and learn about who they were is Christ, there was partiality because the seminary students always got priority, while others were left out. However, that part was hidden. To the majority of the people, they never read the part about the priority of students. It said, “Good for seminary students.” That gave you the idea that there was impartiality. However, if youi went to the person offering the service, they would say, “Oh this is just for seminary students.” I know because my wife and I did this and even though this place was still available, we were left out. So the opportunities are in front of you which makes you think there is oneness, but underneath that the majority of the people cannot see, there is favoritism. I believe God calls us to be one with each other. The problem is, there is no Holy Spirit, so there can be no divine leading to help you be a good servant or fulfill a need you may have. However, to others this sounds so good and makes you think that God is actively involved.
 
Seventh, the largeness of the church. It kind of makes you think of the feeding of the five thousand where the more people that came the more Jesus fed them. With so many people who come you get the idea that the Bible is really being taught properly and people are hungry to hear, so they come. The problem, they can’t discern truth and error. So they love John because he gives them a pseudo truth out of his ever so convincing Greek, Hebrew syntax study of scripture. It makes you think he really knows what he is talking about in God’s word. And people who hear him on the radio get the idea, especially when you listen to Phil Johnson that MacArthur is going to give you what you need to glorify God. The two make a great pair when it comes to convincing people that God is really giving you Grace to who? A great title,
 
There are probably other reasons, but those are a few I can think of as I have observe over the years.
 
Posted by: Mysteryofthegospel
Date: January 21, 2013 08:26AM
 
…What happens if you are JM? Let me share a little about what I found out. A few years ago, he had an interview with Phil Johnson. I’m you know you he is. Anyway it was all about John’s conversion. Phil asked JM if he remembered a time when he made a decision to know Christ. JM said, “I actually do not remember. I was raise by godly parents and they lived out the Christian life in front of me.” JM’s dad was a preacher and JM’s grandfather was a preacher. JM said, “Actually I think I have always been a Christian” My response to that is “All have sinned and fall of the glory of God.” We all have to acknowledge that we are sinners and come to a point of repentance meaning humility, brokenness and beg for the truth of redemption in our lives. We have suppressed the truth in unrighteousness and therefore need what Christ has done by his shed blood and his sacrificial death to be made sin for us and then to understand that because He was raised from the dead we are raised with Him. That is Romans 5-8 in a nutshell. That is why we are not condemned because He has paid the price for us. But according to John’s testimony he is exempt from that. He has taken this and run with it to the point that he has become God of all churches and God of all people who come to shepherds conferences and without even any repentance or brokenness. “Oh, I don”t ever remember a time I didn’t love Christ.” This is a sign of an unregenerated dictator using God’s word as an imposter. Remember, Satan appears as an angel of light.
 
I know a lot of people still at Grace. The problem is and I fell into this until the Holy Spirit changed by life, is you get trapped into his confidence in scripture and the color code of his beautiful words. It is like you are lured in and then hooked with no way out. The church that I went to in Washington state helped me prepare for John when I came back. I was driven to study the word because of the imprisonment I was in. I studied John’s gospel and that is when I allowed the Spirit to be my teacher just like Jesus told the disciples in John 14-16. While at Grace you are locked up into his teaching and his web. Now I can know the fullness of truth and let the Spirit set me free to worship Him in Spirit and Truth.
 
Since I know John, I have attempted to write him on several occasion. I really did not expect to get an answer, but I did so I want to share it with you. It sort of fits in with what you said that JM has set some kind of franchise with the God of this universe. Only it is not with our Father, because God doesn’t treat people like JM does. JM is more the god of this world (2 Corinthians 4-4). Anyway I tried to confront him on issues of scripture and on his judgemental attitude and this is what he said:
 
“I just want to express my sadness that you have the attitude that you do towards me and towards the church. Where all of this comes from I’m not certain, but I am certain that I can’t do anything to remedy it nor will I defend myself or the church. We’re not on trial, and you’re not the judge.” He tells me not to waste my time writing anymore. Here are some problems. He never self-examines any wrongness he has done. When people criticize him, he says “We are not on trial.” He doesn’t know how much he is on trial before the Lord. He is so exempt and so arrogant that he cannot see his own faults. That is why he never remembers a time of true repentance and yet he will tell everyone else they need to repent. As I said, I know of five families whose marriages broke up because he acted as a judge and he tells me I can judge him? He should go on the internet and look at all the people who criticize doctrinal issues about John. What he would is say he is suffering as a good servant for the Lord. Another problem I see is he puts all the blame on those who try to give him constructive criticism by saying, “Get before the Lord and ask Him to fill you with His joy.
 
I have to go before God every day of my life. I am so filled with joy. I have expressed to him what God is doing in my life and how joyful I am and yet he tells me to get before the Lord? He is give the wrong person his advice. He should look in a mirror and give it to himself. If he could see all the notes I take in my Bible study time, he would have a different attitude. John is so defensive of himself and the church that in my opinion there is no hope for him to change. That is sad for me because I know him and I have been involved in the church for so long. As I said, the church did not start out this way. It is John who has done everything to corrupt this church. Christ is everything to me. I desire to know Him as Paul did. Grace would say that is impossible because you have to deal with your sin. I say, “non-sense”. Christ did it for me. God wants us to know Him. He wants to fellowship with us. He wants us to partake of his holiness and his life. That is why we have the Bible. That is why we have the Spirit of God to teach us and guide us in all truth. But for John, you said it. There is no Holy Spirit, no love, unless you abide by his rules and regulations and you believe in his doctrines. People I know still go there. I can’t communicate with them because of GCC’s hold on their lives and their beliefs.
 
Let me say, I have really never been hurt emotionally at Grace. I left because God was teaching me truth and helping me discern the error of JM and those on staff. I saw what happens when a a common ordinary man who has compassion gets on staff and becomes a monster instead of a man of God, and get JM will say he is godly just to protect his ego. Unfortunately, people like you have gotten hurt or the person who went to the college. What Grace would say is, That person is in sin or unsaved. The problem is they don’t even know that salvation in Christ really is, because they look at salvation through doctrine rather than through a personal experience of true brokenness. Yet they continue to counsel and people continue to go there because they are trapped. I have written a book, note specially about Grace. It is not published yet, but it will be soon, Lord willing, It is called, “Intimacy In God.” It is Biblically based and directs us to Christ and not the church. To me, the church draws you to itself in many cases, not to Christ. Grace is the epitome of that.
 
I could go all day on this because I have 20 years of experience on things that have happened there.
 
…However, I will not let my experiences at this church take away the joy I have in Christ. What I want to do is tell others to stay away from this place [Grace Community Church] and do not go to these schools and do not listen to Grace to You. We need to let everyone know and find others who have any tithes to this place. The one thing I am reminded of is JM has to go before the Lord. Jesus said that in John 5 when the tombs are raised. I believe that is when we are out of this body and we face God. JM has affected so many judgment that he will face double judgment (James 3).
 
Posted by: Mysteryofthegospel
Date: January 22, 2013 08:23AM
 
Dear GTW and Mark:
 
Your comments are so right on and appreciate both of you and your concern about MacArthurizm:
 
I have to go through both of your comments so we can work together regarding, JM, Calvinism, Neothetic Counseling and the whole of how they have hurt so many people. First let me say this. In each of these they take the word of God and the work of the Holy Spirit and twist everything to fit their doctrines and their dictorial attitude. And I agree having been a member of Grace for so many years seen how the scriptures have completely been taken out of context.
 
GTW, you are right about doctrine. But I think it is more than doctrine. It is attitude, it is a lack of trust in the Holy Spirit, it is a lack of compassion on people’s lives, people’s hurts and people’s individuality. There was a time in my life even at Grace that I went through conflicts in my life. I was afraid to go to any counselor there because I was afraid they would throw, SIN, SIN, SIN. So I would just go to the mountains and spend an hour or two talking to the Lord. I really felt at peace, but the next time I attended the church, it started all over again. When my wife and I moved to Washington state, we got the same thing. It got so bad that decided I was just going to let the Word of God teach me. Having been to Bible school, I learned principles how to study the Bible, how to keep context, how to relate one first to another and how to ask questions, not just about lverse relationships but about how to take scriptures personally and like I like to call it, take ownership of the Word in your inner being. I began with the gospel of John because I wanted to know Christ intimately in my life. If I was going to beable to deal with all the stress and frustration of the church, I needed to let the Spirit teach me. I was really reward. First, I understand that I had to put myself as a disciple of Jesus as the disciples. They had a mind that could learn, so I had a mind that could learn as long as I kept scripture in the same context that Jesus was teach them. Let me share with both of you a few verses and these are just a few.
 
In John 3:17 it says For God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world but the world through Him might be saved. What that means is even as much as we have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, Christ came to redeem us from the curse of the law, not to make us guilty of the law. Remember Romans 8:1, There is now no comdemnation to those who are in Christ. God I do not believe looks at us through sin, but through the righteousness of Christ. That is why He paid the price for sin. I do not believe that if you are in Christ you deal with sin. My mind was so focused on sin because that is what Calvinism, Reformed Theology and JM says that you have no mind to focus on Christ. I decided I needed to focus on being saved, acknowledging my sinful by mourning and being broken that I have suppressed the truth of the Spirit in my inner man, and then focus on who I am in Christ. I am loved by Him, I am a partaker of His divine nature, I am owned by the Spirit to let Him live out His life in me, I am hidden with Christ in God, I am buried with HIm in baptism that I may be raised with Him in righteousness. That helped me look not at sin but who I was in Him.
 
Shortly after this, I left this church. It wasn’t easy, because they started tell me how much they loved me. They even bought a new car for my life and I. I said “no thank you” They called me ungrateful and not willing to submit to the authority of elders. That was OK with me, because to me, I was going to focus on Christ and not allow them to put that Calvinistic guilt trip on me. I got so made that I told them to shut up and get out. I never had been that bold in my lifel. But it was God’s word helping me see who I was in him so I could discern their attempt to bait me and hook me back to them. That helped me when I went back to Grace. When we finally left JM attempted to lure me with “I love you” Hogwash. He loves himself, he loves what he is in the pulpit so he can dominate. I wrote him a letter to tell him that his ministry was so full of the earrth and not of the Spirit. He wrote back and called me hostile and argumentive. I guess I was both according to his philosophy and his rules. But between me and the Lord, it sure felt good because after 20 years I finally stood up to this man. But I had to have confidence with the scripture and the Spirit. I could not allow these situations to let my mind deal with sin which I did not have to because there is not condemnation. Let me ask you guys a question. If there is sin in a person born of the Spirit, then how can the Spirit be in that person. Sin an righteousness are opposites. So if we are in Christ and His righteousness sin is not and issue with us. Righh? That is why Christ was made sin for us.
 
Calvin believed in Total Depravity. I do not think that is true…But who wants to listen to Reformed Theology that will make a depressed person feel guilty? Christ died for the ungod. I was ungodly once, but I am no more depravited because of Christ in me the hope of glory. I would much rather live in the Spirit, than have to deal with Calvinism or JM or neuthetic counseling.
 
Now, I think we all have a right to be angry. Why? Because the word of truth has been suppressed by men who have a form of godliness but deny the power because like you said GTW, there is no Holy Spirit and if there is no Holy Spirit, they have commited the only sin that is not forgiveable, blasphemy of the Spirit. They are under greater condemnation than they tell us we are under. I think we need to like your friends know how much they are loved by Christ and help them see the grace of God in the midst of their hurt.
 
Mark, I can’t believe that they would do that to your friend with bi-polar and yet that is what Reformed Theology does. It makes you the guilty party because they want to control with earrthly wisdom of the Bible to make you think they are so holy and righteousness. And in the case of JM it is doubled. In the twenty years I was at grace I never heard him talk about a sin he said committed or any brokenness in his life and yet he will condemn others, even national figures that they are unsaved and they need repentance right in the middle of 4000 people. How can national figures help a person in the congregation in their spiritual life? To me that comes from a nationally known Bible figure that is unregenerated.
 
Let me tell you both that I just wrote this man a letter to respect to a couple of lthings he told me. First he didn’t understand where I was coming from, referring to my arguments on what was going on at Grace. I am him my testimony on how God was working in my life. Then he told me a had to stop venting, in others being frustrated. Let me ask you, would you be frustrated if you went to a chuch for 20 years thinking you were getting truth and helping so many kids in AWANA to point them to Christ, then finding out that the guy is a jerk and probably not even of the Spirit. That is heartbreaking for me especially when I know him an I have worked with his children in the past. Let me give couple of things I wrote in this letter: He almost demanded that I get before the Lord and get right with God. I told him I am in the word every day, which I am. I go before the Lord and search my heart out before Him and ask Him to teach me truths that will help me know Him better. In his letter to me he said, “I don’t know where you are coming from.” I told him that I embrace truth, I embrace Christ, I embrace what I am as a living member of the church in my soul, I embrace all that I am in the Spirit of Truth. That brings me inexpressible joy that the mind that focuses on doctrines of this world cannot not know and therefore you cannot understand me or wherte I am going. In other place I told him that that I didn’t think that he was teaching of the Spirit in fact I doubted that he even had the Spirit in him.
 
Reformed Theology teaches doctrine even as wrong as it is, but Reformed Theology leaves out a personal relationship with God and they leave out the Holy Spirit completely.
 
Now, about the question regarding the mansion. I haven’t been to the new house, but I was at the old house. It was quite large. The thing is, when I was at that house his ministry was still small and he was much more person oriented. He loves baseball, football and basketball. In fact he had a tryout with the Washinngton Redskins. I remember going to a retreat and he was the guest speaker. He spent the whole afternoon with me getting to know me. That met a lot to me. But that has all changed. He and I are only two months apart in age. I have seen this man change from a reasonably speaking fair human being to a dictator worse than the pope. When the Master;s College came into play, that changed the whole structure of the church. The church would send him around the world. NOw I understand there is even an academy in John’s honor in one countryl. It is spreading so fast and your right Mark, it is time to do something about it. People are getting tripped into this. It isn’t just Grace but so many others you come to the shepherd’s conference learn then take MacArthurism to their church. I saw on the internet by one who says it is like a one-world church. That is scary for me since I know so many people who still go there but have no idea what is going on because the staff feelings they have to ‘PROTECT THEIR FLOCK” I can tell you this about John’s finances. He makes mega bucks. Every time a book is sold he get royalties. Every time Grace to You is broadcasted he gets royalties. The guy is loaded. Do you think he is going to give all of that up and his reputation by repenting of sin he doesn’t think he has? No way. That tells me he has no conscious mind toward the Lord Jesus Christ. Christ who was rich went into poverty for us. Paul says when he was a Pharisee of Pharisee, and found blameless, he gave up everyrthing to know Christ and be found in Him. We considered it as rubbish. But MacArthur wouln’t do this. He has an empire. People idolize him. They want to be a part of what he is doing. Boy, they blinded. Again I haven’t to his current residence but I can tell you that it is in a high-rent district…
 
Next, anything that I can do to help expose this most dangerous theology church and man I will be happy to help out.
 
…I am excited about what I am in Christ, I am excited about us sharing this with each other, and I am excited to find people like me who want to expose this cult in the name of the truth of the pure gospel and not the gospel according to MacArthur.
 
Posted by: Mysteryofthegospel
Date: January 22, 2013 11:19PM
 
I was a member of GCC for twenty years…I can tell you that Mahaney was a member of the UN and is very dangerous in the efforts against the true gospel of Christ. I think we need to be very careful and accurate in our efforts to fight against this most dangerous and Satan driven cult. I know MacArthur personally
 
Posted by: Mysteryofthegospel
Date: January 24, 2013 05:33AM
 
I have a friend of mine who I had in AWANA when he was a third grader. He loves me and I want to let him know that is going on at Grace because his sister is still there. I have to be gentle with him and help him through this so I can show him how wrong GCC is. He told me about his family members all of which I know and then another family. Both the parents of both families are divorced. It doesn’t matter of John teaches against divorce, when the Bible is taught wrong, people are going to do what they feel is right in their own eyes. One of the boys I had in AWANA got married then had a divorce because the wife used drugs. His mother who I know very well is in a mental home because she had a nervous breakdown. His sister works there and charges family members $200 a session to see their mother. INSANE. That is the result of teaching at GCC. Peoples lives are being turned upside down because JM uses hard theology of the reformist on people.
 
Posted by: Mysteryofthegospel
Date: January 26, 2013 08:31PM
 
…This is a dangerous cult and like Immel I was steeped in it and God took Me out. I must say, I threw all of MacArthur’s tapes and books out. If I am going to document him I can get it on the internet because his lies are all over the place and you can get so much info how he twists the scriptures to puff himself up and tear everybody else down.
 
We have to remember one thing. These people that promote Calvinsism and even the Armenianism which I don’t go along with either have to face Christ when they die in this body. I believe they are all going to plead like the rich man in Luke 16. They will have to live in that doctrine in hell for the rest of their lives because it is not just the doctrine, it is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. Because I believe the Holy Spirit is in us to help us know Christ, not the doctrines of the devil such as Calvinism is.
 
Posted by: Mysteryofthegospel
Date: January 27, 2013 08:42PM
 
…Then when they find such men as Mahoney an Mohler and others to back up their thinking, then it adds to their belief system. This is what has happened to John MacArthur. It is a sad commentary in my mind how God’s truth is turned into a lie and passed down to so many people to listen to this every week.
 

10.  Testimony of a Christian who spent many years in a Macarthur-network church
 
Posted by: Lass o’ the Glen
Date: March 13, 2013 11:34AM
 
…Innocent believers find their way into JM’s teachings through their genuine desire to love God and His Church… Nouthetic counseling is an aberrant counseling method…but its roots lay deep within the hubris of JM’s patriarchal fundamentalist authoritarianism, which IMO should be the main focus of criticism.
 
JM’s network operates as if God grants a special measure of grace and authority to pastors JM has trained. This goes against what the Bible clearly teaches about the Holy Spirit and the priesthood of all believers. TMS reinforces this spiritual elitism. When a TMS pastor is puffed up with scriptural knowledge and the belief that God has uniquely anointed him with authority, it won’t be long before he thinks he has the right to dictate to and sit in judgment of his spiritually inferior fellow believers. TMS pastors impress people with their knowledge and cause believers to doubt their Holy Spirit guided understanding of the Scriptures. I would even go so far as to say that these pastors impose themselves between believers and the Spirit. They routinely assert that theirs is the only valid interpretation, and anyone who doesn’t hold to their interpretation is hellbound. They insist we can’t be trusted with interpreting the Bible for ourselves because our hearts are wicked and easily deceived. This implies that they believe that their own hearts are not.
 
This teaching causes great fear and more than a little cognitive dissonance in anyone who can still hear the Spirit and desires to walk with God. This dissonance leads to despair and self-condemnation, and the believer is crushed under the spiritual and emotional burden placed upon him. He has two choices: remain in the JM network and slap a *happy*shiny*face* over his self-doubt and despair, or make a run for the border. Making a run for it is often easier said than done because all the believer’s familial and social connections are usually tied into the church, so many sit and suffer in silence.
 
The other side of the coin are those believers who for whatever reason find affirmation and personal satisfaction in their affiliation with JM. Whether they too are operating from spiritual pride or merely practicing celebrity pastor worship, I’m not certain. I do know that the people I personally know who attend GCC are some of the most anxious, pessimistic and joyless people I’ve ever met. I feel sorry for them. Which is why I’m here.
 
Posted by: Lass o’ the Glen
Date: March 25, 2013 11:12PM
 
…I’ve been in a JM network church for a very long time. I lived through the shift from what you experienced at TMC in the 1990’s to where JM’s doctrines stand today.  JM has blended Calvinist soteriology with premill./dispensational eschatology and patched it together with Lordship Salvation. What you get with this is a lot of burdened, fearful, spiritually elitist people who have no peace, no freedom and no assurance of the love and grace of God.
 
People in these churches are so overwhelmed with guilt over their sins (little things like overeating and poor housekeeping) that they themselves ask to be publicly disciplined for them. They view normal stumblings, doubts or emotional lows as evidence that they were never saved in the first place, so you will see people in these churches get rebaptized whenever they come out of a low point in their faith. I’m convinced that their need to maintain a spiritual high is the primary reason they chase after celebrity pastors like rock stars, gobbling up their books and hopping from one RBD conference to another.
 
JM network church leaders always insist that what they teach is orthodox, nondenominational and Bible-centered. When confronted with the fact that their teaching is neo-Calvinistic, they’ll deny it and say it’s merely genuine Christian teaching. Since they do not recognize any other doctrine as being genuinely Christian, they do not recognize their doctrine as being neo-Calvinistic. To them their doctrine is truth and all others are error. You can’t convince them otherwise.
 
Posted by: Lass o’ the Glen
Date: June 07, 2013 02:17AM
 
…If people would only stop and compare JM’s teachings against the WHOLE COUNSEL OF GOD they’d see that JM’s teachings do not line up with it. GCC/TMS/TMC seem humanistic in their elevating the doctrines and disciplines of men above the salvic work of Christ on the cross and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. It’s beginning to look as though JM and his institutions deny the Trinity in their beliefs and practices.

Henrietta Mears: Grandmother of the Apostate Church

     Born in a Bank

Henrietta Mears’ father, E. Ashley Mears, had substantial wealth, owning more than twenty banks located in the Dakotas. (Talbot School of Theology).  “Banking was the occupation of his [E. Ashley Mears’] family; one of his uncles founded the First National Bank of Philadelphia and another uncle founded the First National Bank of St. Paul. (The Henrietta Mears Story-Ch. 8).

Since the global ecumenical movement was launched to a large extent by Henrietta Mears’ ministry, it makes one wonder if powerful bankers contributed significant amounts of money to give credibility and a firm foundation to this ecumenical and ultimately Masonic enterprise. (See John Macarthur’s Ecumenical Roots).

“Her family belonged to the First Baptist Church of Minneapolis, and they would often entertain such renowned Christian leaders as W. Graham Scroggie, G. Campbell Morgan, and R. A. Torrey, who greatly influenced the young girl.”

Utilized Small Groups for Church Growth

Organizing Christians into small groups is the objective of nearly every Christian church leader today.  While some of these small groups are biblical “didactic” Bible studies, most are unbiblical “dialectic” sessions meant to “mind control” the group participants by changing their way of thinking from obedience to God to obedience to the group and its leader.  Their objective is to shift the accountability of the group participants from God to man.  Click here to read how these small groups place the participants in demonic bondage.

In recent times these small group dialectic sessions have been popularized by Rick Warren who refers to them as facilitator-led groups.  At John Macarthur’s Grace Community Church they are called “Discussion Groups” and at the Harvest Bible Fellowship they are called “Life Groups.”  These groups were developed to an extent by social-psychologists at the National Training Labs.

“Accepting a position at Central High School, Henrietta continued in that capacity for ten years. Her Fidelis Class, comprised of young women at the First Baptist Church, grew to an enrollment of three thousand attendees at the end of ten years. Such growth was based on a system of small groups comprised of five girls including a leader; when groups reached ten girls, one girl left to start a new group of her own.” Did these girls join the groups because they believed in Christ or because they desired to socialize?

“In March of 1926, she met Dr. Stewart P. MacLennan, pastor of the First Presbyterian Church of Hollywood, California, who had come to preach in her church…She found an exciting ministry there with great potential; she finally sensed God’s call and accepted the position of Director of Christian Education in the fall of 1928.”

“Under her direction, the Sunday School grew from 450 to more than 6000 in 1933, and later to 6500-the largest Presbyterian Sunday school of its time in the world. ‘Teacher,’ as her students called her…”  “she operated on the same level as the pastors, practically speaking.” Henrietta was disobedient to God in this capacity.  “But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.” 1Timothy 2:12

Outcome Based Education employs the dialectic process.  “After she and her fellow Christian educators agreed on learning outcomes for each of the levels, she began to write materials by herself at first, and later was assisted by associates.”  “[Her] Publications were known for their quality, student appeal, and emphasis on life application.”  Life application is a watering down of the Bible.

Hollywood Christian Group

“Her vision also included reaching those in the film industry for Christ; she was instrumental in forming the Hollywood Christian Group as a means to this end…”  Of great interest, John Macarthur of Grace Community Church and Phil Johnson of Grace To You have both stated that John Macarthur’s father was a co-founder of this Hollywood Christian Group.  The Hollywood Christian Group included high ranking Freemasons like Roy Rogers (Leonard Slye) and Dale Evans. Click here to read more.

Mears Integrated the Teaching of John Dewey with Holy Scripture

The Talbot School of Theology lists Mears as a “Christian Educator.”  In a lengthy bio. about Mears on the Talbot website under the subtitle “Contributions to Christian Education,” it is stated:

“Possessing both training and experience as a public school teacher, she integrated much of the contemporary educational thought of John Dewey and others regarding student needs and learning process with the timeless content of Scripture.”

Can you believe that a so-called Christian Seminary considers the mixing of John Dewey’s socialism with Scripture to be a “contribution to Christian education!?” 

Who was John Dewey?  “It turns out that progressive educator John Dewey’s books were not only influential in the United States. ‘Dewey’s first six books were rapidly translated into Russian,’ historian Paul Kengor said in a conference sponsored by the group America’s Survival. ‘They told John Dewey his books were perfect for what they were trying to do in the USSR.'”

“‘Dewey’s ideas were apparently judged as crucial to the [communist] revolution as any weapon in the arsenal of the Red Army.’ Kengor did much of his research in the archives of the Communist International, about as primary a source as you can get.”

http://www.academia.org/john-dewey-soviet-progressives/

John Dewey was an original signer of the Humanist Manifesto in 1933:

“The first manifesto, entitled simply A Humanist Manifesto, was written in 1933 primarily by Roy Wood Sellars and Raymond Bragg and was published with thirty-four signatories including philosopher John Dewey.  Unlike the later ones, the first Manifesto talked of a new “religion”, and referred to Humanism as a religious movement to transcend and replace previous religions based on allegations of supernatural revelation.” (Humanist Manifesto-Wikipedia)

John Dewey was an anti-Christ atheist, yet Talbot School of Theology thinks it’s a great thing that Henrietta Mears integrated his teachings with Holy Scripture in order to facilitate Christian student’s needs.

Changing God’s Teaching Method

The Talbot website goes on to name another of Mears’ contributions to Christian education:

“Methods and procedures [of teaching] could change, she contended, and must be rethought based on the changing condition of the world and human need (Cox, 1961).”  Does God allow methods to change in teaching his word based on changing conditions?  God commanded that His word be preached and teached (didactic teaching).  He doesn’t command that His word be dialogued or discussed to a consensus (dialectic method) which was advocated by Marxists like Dewey and which now exists in nearly every church today taking the form of small group dialectic sessions.

“In her training design she utilized the full range of learning taxonomies. While her cognitive input was strong, she understood the power of the affective and volitional domains, and stressed the experiential as well (Clinton, 1995).”  Does God have an interest in your “affective domain” (feelings)?

Has Talbot ever been a Christian Seminary?  Talbot is the seminary for Biola.  Charles Fuller was the Chairman of the Board of Biola in the late 1920’s.  Talbot Seminary’s first dean was Charles Feinberg, an Orthodox Jewish rabbi.  John Macarthur has stated that the only reason he attended Talbot was to be personally tutored by this rabbi.  (See John Macarthur’s Rabbi).

Ecumenical Christian Conferences

Mears founded the Forest Home Christian Conference Center.  This was a place where Christian diversity could meet and mingle (setting aside their differences and finding common ground–building the one world church).  “Mears saw God’s work as crossing denominational lines.”  Today, numerous churches in America host these ecumenical conferences.

“Dr. Billy Graham claims that his evangelistic ministry was transformed through Mears and events surrounding the College Briefing Conference of 1949 at Forest Home.”  Bill Bright and his wife lived for 11 years in Mears’ home where the ecumenical Campus Crusade was born.

“One writer in Christianity Today (Zoba, 1996) called her ‘the grandmother of us all.'” (Talbot School).

Note: John Macarthur now sends his “Juniors” Children’s Ministry to Forest Home, the camp Henrietta Mears founded.

First Presbyterian Church of Hollywood was Founded at Masonic Hall

Henrietta Mears taught at the First Presbyterian Church of Hollywood (FPCH) for 35 years. According to FPCH History:

“Dr. MacLennan was instrumental in persuading Henrietta Mears to take the position as Director of Christian Education, where for 35 years, from 1928-1963, Miss Mears established a legacy of Christian education and ministry that was unique in American Christendom. During the 1950s, she ministered through the College Department to many hundreds of men and women, including such future leaders as Louis Evans, Jr.; Bill Bright, founder of Campus Crusade for Christ; Donn Moomaw, and Dale Bruner. Her vision for a Christian camp in the local mountains led to the purchase and subsequent development of Forest Home. She also founded Gospel Light Press, which continues to publish Sunday School materials.”

According to A Little Piece of History, in 1903, FPCH was founded at Masonic Hall:

“On December 20, 1903, at 11:00 am, a group of 25 men and women gather in an upstairs room at the Masonic Hall on Highland Avenue to organize what we lovingly know today as the First Presbyterian Church of Hollywood. Rev. Dr. H.A. Newell is the founder and pastor with these 25 charter members. Dr. Newell makes a great many house visits during this first year. One calculation estimates 1500 visits, resulting in him wearing out a buggy and one set of harnesses. Dr. Newell remained our pastor until 1909, passing away in June 1910.”

Jack Macarthur Met with Billy Graham at FHPC in 1951

John Macarthur’s father, Jack, met with Billy Graham (Freemason) at FPCH in 1951.  Click here to view 2 pictures of this meeting.

The Wartburg Watch: Feminist and LGBTQ Change Agents

“Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them” Acts 20:30

INTRODUCTION

The Wartburg Watch is a watchman blog started in March 2009 and run by Darlene “Dee” Parsons and Wanda “Deb” Martin who write nearly all of its posts. In the description of who they are, they claim that truth is of utmost importance to them and that among their goals in starting Wartburg Watch was to expose heresy.
 
“We are two Christian women who have seriously pursued our faith. We have discovered some disturbing trends within Christendom which compelled us to start TWW. Our goal is to shine a light into the darkness, exposing hypocrisy, heresy, and arrogance while also examining trends that affect the faith in the public square.  Truth and transparency are of utmost importance to us.” (L)
 
I became aware of Wartburg Watch when Dee Parsons wrote a post that linked to an article I’d written.  Her post exposed the abuse suffered by a woman and her child at the hands of a pastor who I would describe as being a disciple of John Macarthur.  I had been researching Macarthur for quite some time and was familiar with his doctrines and with the general mind control that exists in his satellite churches. With that knowledge, I commented on that post to the effect that there was evidence Macarthur was a Mason and a Druid.  My comments were mocked and my subsequent comments were deleted.  The abused woman was allowed to tell her story, the abusive pastor was “exposed,” but any discussion of Macarthur’s influence or what I believed to be the true cause for this abuse wasn’t allowed.  I then became curious and decided to take a look into Wartburg Watch.
 
According to Deb Martin, the inspiration for The Wartburg Watch was Wade Burleson who is The Wartburg Watch’s E-Church pastor. (L)  Since Wartburg Watch is a purported Christian watch blog, one would think that its pastor would be biblically sound.  To the contrary, I found that Wade Burleson teaches more heretical doctrines than any of the abusive pastors exposed by Wartburg Watch!  For example, Wade Burleson teaches, among many other heresies, that Jesus Christ is Michael, the Archangel.
 
Dee Parsons and Deb Martin are close friends with Wade Burleson and have been guests at his home.  They say that they read his blog religiously and sometimes they copy his articles and post them at Wartburg Watch.  I wonder how they can claim to have a goal to expose heresy and to tell truth while they expose their many blog visitors to Wade Burleson’s teachings at least weekly and without warning?  Do Dee Parsons and Deb Martin also believe Jesus Christ is Michael, the Archangel?  Do they believe that God is father and mother and is feminine as their pastor, Wade Burleson, also teaches?
 
Of greater concern, I found that Dee Parsons, Deb Martin, and Wade Burleson share a strong feminist agenda to place women as elders and pastors in the church.  And they are not just advocating for women elders and pastors, but for the inclusion of homosexual leaders in the church as well.
 
On the surface, Wartburg Watch appears to be on a mission to expose church leaders who have abused their authority and to help the victims of this abuse.  However, the facts show that their real and hidden agenda is undermining God’s ordained authority structure in the church in favor of a authority structure which includes both women and homosexuals.
 
Bob Johnson 5/26/16 (intotheword2@aol.com)
 
 
DEE PARSONS
 
Dee Parsons, Wartburg Watch’s administrator, is the granddaughter of a Russian immigrant and the daughter of a Russian Orthodox father who was a 32nd degree Freemason. (L-comment section). She was also a member of the International Order of Rainbows, a Masonic organization for girls. (L-comment section) She claims to have become a Christian at 17 years of age while watching an episode of Star Trek. (L)
 
Dee Parsons’ pastor was Pete Briscoe
 
The following was taken from Dee Parsons’ recent article (4/27/16), My Former Pastor, Pete Briscoe, Smashes Stereotypes With Women Pastors and Elders:
 
“I have been wanting to write this post for a long while but I have waited until Bent Tree Bible Fellowship (BTBF) and Pete Briscoe made the decision to go forward with publicly declaring that they would have women as elders. What was even more quiet was the fact that BTBF has long had a female pastor, and from what I can tell, we can now say female pastors. None of this takes me by surprise and I am incredibly proud to say that I spent many years at this wonderful church. Better yet, I can say that my husband and I felt quite close to Pete.”
 
Dee Parsons taught a class while at Bent Tree Bible Fellowship and upon leaving the church, Pete Briscoe told her: “Don’t ever let anyone tell you that you can’t teach.” (L)
 
Has Pete Briscoe smashed “stereotypes” in allowing female pastors and elders as Dee Parsons wrote? Or has he smashed God’s word in allowing these female pastors and elders?
 
The Briscoes
 
Stuart and Jill Briscoe are the parents of Pete Briscoe. The following was taken from Dee Parsons’ “Smashing Stereotypes” article:
 
“Jill and Stuart came to the States from England. You can read about them at their website Teaching the Truth. Pete grew up in a home with intelligent and committed parents: both dad and mom. They were both powerhouses. I will never forget the time that Pete, during a service, told a story about his mother, Jill, coming to speak at the chapel…
 
“As she rose to speak, a number of young men turned their backs on her, showing their disdain for a women teacher. Pete broke down in tears as he reviewed all the wonderful things his mother had done in her life. He could not fathom how aspiring pastors could be both so cruel to her. Through my years there, I heard story after story of the enormous influence his mother, as well as his father, had on his life.
 
“In 2010, Jill and Stuart participated in a book called How I Changed My Mind about Women in Leadership: Compelling Stories from Prominent Evangelicals. This book is helpful in understanding how some Christian leaders (and yes-Jill is a leader) came to an understanding that women in leadership can occur within faithful churches.” (L)
 
Stuart Briscoe: Globalist, Ecumenist, Feminist 
 
The Briscoes were major figures in the global ecumenical Lausanne/National Association of Evangelicals movement. Stuart Briscoe was on the Advisory Committee of the Lausanne Movement’s Mission America Coalition. (L) Billy Graham (33rd degree Mason) convened the first Lausanne Congress in 1974. (L) The purpose of The Lausanne Movement and Mission America Coalition is to transform and to unify Christians, churches, and denominations into social service within Satan’s world government. Stuart Briscoe was also a leader of TOPIC (Trainers of Pastors International Consultation) which is a member of the World Evangelical Alliance (an NGO of the United Nations). (L)
 
“In 1951, the National Association of Evangelicals revived the World Evangelical Fellowship from the ‘dying embers’ of the former World Evangelical Alliance (Evangelical Alliance of 1846) which became the NAE’s international umbrella. The Evangelical Alliance, now called the World Evangelical Alliance, was formed in 1846 in a conference held at Freemason’s Hall, United Grand Lodge of England, the mother of all Masonic lodges. (L)
 
“The World Evangelical Alliance is the shadow government to the Lausanne Movement which is the umbrella over the global ecumenical movement.” (L)
 
Biblical Discernment Ministry’s (BDM) expose of the Briscoes is also revealing. According to BDM, Stuart Briscoe was a speaker at the 50th Convention of the National Association of Evangelicals. He was Vice Chairman of the 1979 Milwaukee Billy Graham Crusade “where the Roman Catholics held a city-wide mass for the new ‘converts’ gained from the Graham crusade!” Stuart Briscoe also promoted Promise Keeper’s in his church and wrote daily devotionals for its publication.
 
“Its [PK’s] roots are Catholic and charismatic to the core. PK’s contradictory stand on homosexuality; its promotion of secular psychology; its unscriptural feminizing of men; its depiction of Jesus as a “phallic messiah” tempted to perform homosexual acts; and its ecumenical and unbiblical teachings should dissuade any true Christian from participating. Promise Keepers is proving to be one of the most ungodly and misleading movements in the annals of Christian history. Nevertheless, Stuart Briscoe is a promoter of this ecumenical, charismatic, psychologized men’s movement…” (L)
 
​Stuart Briscoe was formerly senior pastor of the 10,000-member Elmbrook Church in Brookfield, Wisconsin which “ordains women … and has several women among its 20 full-time pastors.” (L)
 
“Stuart Briscoe defines an ‘evangelical’ as someone who has had ‘some type of conversion experience — although that can be defined differently by different people, from a major turning point in life to a simple baptism’ (March 1995, Exclusively Yours, ‘Elmbrook Church: The Secret of Its Success,’ pp. 10-15). That’s easy-believism at best and baptismal regeneration at worst!!” (L)
 
Stuart Briscoe is a globalist and an ecumenist with a feminist agenda.
 
Jill Briscoe: Globalist, Ecumenist, Feminist
 
Jill Briscoe is also a globalist and an ecumenist with a feminist agenda. According to the BDM expose, she has served on the Board of Christianity Today.
 
“Christianity Today, Inc., which was founded in 1955 by Dr. L. Nelson Bell and his son-in-law, William Franklin “Billy” Graham, represents a nexus for the ecumenical leaders of the Lausanne movement.” (L)
 
According to BDM, she also served as the women’s prayer chairman for the 1979 Milwaukee Billy Graham Crusade and was a speaker at the 50th NAE Convention. She has also been a speaker at Women of Faith Conferences, the women’s counterpart to the men’s Promise Keepers.
 
“Women of Faith is part of the global apparatus designed to draw Christian women into the worldwide ecumenical movement.” (L)
 
According to the BDM expose:
 
“Jill Briscoe serves on the board of Christianity Today, neo-evangelicalism’s most prominent magazine, and on the board of the theologically-liberal and politically-leftist, World Relief…The Briscoe’s church in Wisconsin also has a liberal position on the role of women in ministry, e.g., ‘Elmbrook Church ordains women … and has several women among its 20 full-time pastors.’ Jill Briscoe has stated that she ‘would like to see women become willing to serve the church at any level …’ Currently, women also serve as deacons at Elmbrook Church, and in the past have been considered for positions as elders. Elmbrook’s associate pastor of women’s ministries, Laurie Katz, states that, ‘At Elmbrook women are highly regarded and are given positions of responsibility in the church … This church is stronger because of all the women who have been empowered here. … The Council of Elders does not function in an authoritarian way, they just oversee things. We don’t have to have our decisions approved by them’ (March 1995, Exclusively Yours, ‘Elmbrook Church: The Secret of Its Success,’ pp. 10-15).
 
“The 4/8/96 Christianity Today quotes Jill Briscoe thusly:
 
“‘And for eight years I preached and taught and saw people come to Christ on the streets. The hierarchy of the mission was thrilled and affirmed that gift in me… The people who have set me free to minister to men as well as to women have been men, not women. In my own church, through my husband and the elders, women have gained huge freedoms — we have ‘come a long way.’ We have women pastors on staff. We have women in every echelon of leadership, apart from the council of elders.’ (Emphasis added.)
 
“Jill Briscoe has also taught at Word of Life, Moody Bible Institute, and brought the Sunday evening message at the 3/96 National Association of Evangelicals (NAE) convention. Obviously, Jill Briscoe either has no idea of what the Bible teaches about women in ministry, or simply doesn’t care.
 
“One of the busy spots at the 55th Annual NAE Convention (1997) was the Christians for Biblical Equality exhibit. This group made available the books Women Elders Called By God and What Paul Really Said About Women. This radical group is calling for women’s ordination and rejecting the Scripture texts that forbid women serving as pastors and elders. Their statement said ‘We believe that Scripture is to be interpreted holistically and thematically. The Bible teaches that in the New Testament economy women as well as men exercise the prophetic, priestly and royal functions. Women are to be used in pastoral care, teaching, preaching and worship.’ Among those who signed this declaration are Myron S. Augsburger, Stuart Briscoe, Tony Campolo, Vernon Grounds, David Hubbard, Bill Hybels, Richard Mouw, and Ronald Sider.”
 
Dee Parsons Defends Freemasonry
 
Dee Parsons stated the following on her Wartburg Watch blog regarding Freemasonry:
 
“All ‘good’ Christians believe that Masons are a cult and some go so far as to say that Masons are involved in a secret culture that is plotting to take over the country. Whereas, most Masons today are a bunch of good old boys who mutter some secret words (mostly Bible verses) and have secret handshakes then repair to the local bar for beer and pizza.” (L)
 
“All ‘good‘ Christians believe that Masons are a cult.” This statement is mocking Christians and according to Dee Parsons, these “good” Christians even “go so far as to say that Masons are involved in a secret culture.”
 
Freemasonry is a Gnostic religion based on the Jewish Kabbalah. Its occult secrets are revealed to men as they are initiated up the ladder and into the higher degrees. These men have taken oaths/obligations to not reveal these secrets under penalty of death. The following is an oath taken during the initiation of a new “Entered Apprentice” Mason which has been taken from Duncan’s Ritual and Monitor of Freemasonry: Entered Apprentice, or First Degree, Obligation:
 
“I do hereby and hereon most solemnly and sincerely promise and swear, that I will always hail, ever conceal, and never reveal, any of the arts, parts, or points of the hidden mysteries of Ancient Free Masonry…under no less penalty than that of having my throat cut across, my tongue torn out by its roots, and my body buried in the rough sands of the sea, at low-water mark…should I ever knowingly violate this my Entered Apprentice obligation.”
 
That Freemasonry is an occult secret society is indisputable. Why would Dee Parsons have us believe otherwise?
 
Dee Parsons then scorns these “good” Christians for going so far as to believe Masons are “plotting to take over the country.” It’s no secret among many Christians that Freemasons founded this country.  Read The Masonic Foundations of the United States to learn more. Of greater concern, Freemasonry also controls Christianity in this country through Masonic controlled colleges, seminaries, denominations, and media (TV, radio, publishing).
 
Dee Parsons then goes on to dismiss these concerns and warnings from Christians with the tired old lie that Masons are just “a bunch of good old boys” who mutter mostly Bible verses!
 
Dee Parsons: “Freemasonry is a Christian Conspiracy”
 
“I was a member of the Rainbow Girls and my father was a 32nd degree Mason. You don’t get more experienced than that. And I am saying that Free Masonry is another one of those Christian conspiracies. The guys in this group do it to hang together and have a few…My dad, never one of [sic] secrets, showed me his ring and explained some of the ‘secret’ stuff. Good night! It was nothing. (L)
 
So according to Dee Parsons, the belief that Freemasonry conspires to infiltrate and subvert Christianity isn’t grounded at all in reality or in verifiable facts, but is really just the product of the delusional and “conspiratorial” Christian imagination.
 
Dee Parsons continues on: “I have to admit, my conspiracy theory radar goes up with things like Free masonry, yoga, Harry Potter, anti-Halloween, Christian Zionism, and ardent YEC, moon landing conspiracies, etc. (L)
 
What does Dee Parsons mean by saying that things like yoga, Harry Potter, and anti-Halloween make her “conspiracy theory radar” go up?  It might be helpful to look up the meaning of “conspiracy theorist.” The following definition has been taken from Urban Dictionary:
 
“A word used by shills when they are losing an argument. The shill calls their opponent a ‘conspiracy theorist’ in an attempt to discredit them by implying that they are paranoid and delusional. In point of fact, it is the shill using the term ‘conspiracy theorist’ that is engaging in an ad hominem attack that can be considered delusional, brainwashed and willfully ignorant of the FACTS.”
 
It’s Christians who have strongly warned about the spiritual dangers involved in practicing yoga (Hinduism), celebrating Halloween, and in the mainstreaming of witchcraft through Harry Potter books, movies, camps. Why would Dee Parsons seek to discredit Christians for warning of these dangers by calling them conspiracy theorists?
 
Commenting on a Wartburg Watch post, Bob J gave a link that provided evidence John Macarthur is a Freemason. In response to that comment, Dee Parsons stated the following:
 
@ Bob J:
“That is a bizarre link. It is just another screed on freemasonry and allegations that certain leaders are MasonsIt’s baloney and Christians should be careful not to fall for such conspiracy hogwash.” (L)
 
Finally, Dee Parsons stated: “OK Time for true confession. I was a Rainbow Girl and received my majority degree. That means I was a teen female version of the Masons and graduated in good standing. All we ever talked about was the rainbow being a sign that God would never again destroy the earth with water. Our secret sign and secret handshake were iterations on the rainbow. Real satan stuff, you know.” (L)
 
“Now, I [Dee Parsons] became a Christian when I was 17 and still keeping the outer door. If there was anything going on, I would have known about it.” (L)
 
One could legitimately question Dee Parsons’ conversion experience at 17 if she was still keeping up her Masonic duties at 20, the Age of Majority for Rainbows.
 
​The following comment was made by a frequent Wartburg Watch commenter, Dr. Fundystan, on Sun Feb 28, 2016 at 11:02 AM:
 
“For what it’s worth, I am of Scottish descent (on my dad’s side). I’m also a Freemason – ironically enough, I am York right, not Scottish rite! And anyone who thinks Masonry is anything more than a social club or has any tie with Druidism is just ignorant. (L-comments)
 
I would like to invite Dr. Fundystan to read and to study the following:
 
“Masons are our present Druids.” (L) “…our mode of teaching the principles of our profession [Masonry] is derived from the Druids …” (L) “Masons .. admire the Druids and some of them even claim that Masonry came from Druidism.” (L)
 
THE WARTBURG WATCH’S FEMINIST/ HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA
 
Like her former pastor, Pete Briscoe, and her E-Church pastor, Wade Burleson, Dee Parsons and Deb Martin and The Wartburg Watch have a blatant feminist agenda. To verify this, one only has to read their two recent articles:
 
 
The Wartburg Watch lists a blogroll of others who share its feminist agenda.  For example, after reading the article about Pete Briscoe smashing God’s word with women pastors and elders, Julie Anne Smith, who runs Spiritual Sounding Board blog, commented at Wartburg Watch:
 
“I found tears flowing down my cheeks as I listened to these men speak so positively, encouragingly, and excited about women in leadership. Thank you, Dee. Wow!” (L)
 
Rachel Held Evans is listed on Wartburg Watch’s blogroll.  As a keynote speaker at Justin Lee’s Gay Christian Network, Evans advocates for women and homosexual church leaders. (L)  She also opposes the defunding of Planned Parenthood. (L)
 
The Wartburg Watch also lists Sarah Pulliam Bailey’s Her.meneutics on its blogroll.  Sarah Pulliam Bailey is a religion reporter for the Washington Post and was formerly online editor for Christianity Today.  Until recently, she was the national correspondent for the very pro-homosexual Religion News Service.  (Religion News Service, along with its homosexual editor-in-chief and its wealthy LGBTQ advocacy funder, Arcus Foundation, will be discussed later in this report).  Pulliam-Bailey also advocates for the inclusion of homosexuals in the church.  One can read two of her articles here and here.
 
According to Deb Martin’s review of Pulliam Bailey’s Christianity Today’s 50 Women to Watch:
 
​”Thank you Sarah Pulliam Bailey and the CT staff for encouraging Christian women to use their God-given gifts like those featured in your wonderful article 50 Women You Should Know. I know one of them personally, and she is a tremendous inspiration to me.  May Christian women, who have been held back by the gender gurus, seek to please an audience of one, Jesus Christ.”
 
​This remark is deceitful.  Deb Martin wants to please Jesus Christ with her “God-given gifts” and it’s the “gender gurus” who are holding her back?  It’s Jesus Christ who forbids women to teach or to usurp authority over men in the church. It’s God’s word which restrains women in the church. Yet Deb Martin won’t acknowledge God’s word or His restraints and instead resorts to mocking and blaming Christian men who wish to be faithful to God’s word by referring to them as “gender gurus.”
 
Dee Parsons advocates for homosexual church leaders

Christians are concerned, and justifiably so, that if women are allowed to be church elders and pastors, then that will inevitably open the door for homosexual pastors and church elders.  Dee Parsons and Wartburg Watch have a feminist agenda.  Do they also have an agenda to allow unrepentant homosexuals in the churches?  The following quotes from Dee Parsons are alarming:
 
“I strongly believe that the Church needs to be sensitive and understanding toward those born with gender ambiguities…” (L)  So Dee Parsons believes people are born gay which she calls “gender ambiguities.”
 
I feel it is important for me to let you all know that I do not believe that being gay is a sinSaying that one is gay is no different than saying one is hetereosexual. It is what we do with those feelings that matter…I believe the church, as a whole, has not done a good job in this area, starting with me! This series is my way of attemtping [sic], in some small way, to up the level of conversation within the church.” (L)
 
It is what we do with these feelings that matter.  A heterosexual can do something with his or her feelings: He/she can get married before God.
 
I view the union between two atheists, two Buddhists and two Wiccans, the same way I view a civil union between two women. None of them should impact the way the church perceives marriage. Instead, the church should develop a clear, well-thought out and earnest perspective of the Biblical view of marriage. And then actually try to live it. Instead, we spend an inordinate amount of time defining why women should not pray out loud in church and joining in protests and then wonder why our culture does not understand and/or ignores our thoughts on this vital topic.” (L)
 
What is Dee Parsons saying here?  The church isn’t “living it,” and therefore, should have no voice?  By the way, it’s not sinful for two atheists, Buddhists, or Wiccans to marry; it is a sin for two lesbians to marry in a civil union.
 
Churches do not provide clear role models for gays. Think about your church. It has programs for families, Sunday school programs for kids, women’s Bible studies, marriage seminars, divorce recovery, etc. The church is set up to be a great role model for families. The pastor is usually married and role models his family.
 
Where is the admired celibate gay person leading a Bible study, worship service, or serving as a deacon? Sometimes I wonder if single people are really welcome in the church. Many churches would not hire a senior pastor who is single. Yet Paul himself was a single for his entire ministry.
 
“There are most likely gay kids in your church. Justin [Lee] quotes a study (p.9) by Christian Community that virtually all congregations, even the ones who were outspoken against homosexuality, had kids who self-identified as gay but they would not tell others in the church about this.
 
If the church does not have gay role models, who will these kids turn to for advice? Unless the church gets serious about this issue, our children may turn to the larger gay community, which exists outside of the church.
 
“If a gay person must be celibate for his life, how does the church support them?” (L)
 
Dee Parsons wants Christians to accept the delusion of an unchanging since birth homosexual “orientation.”  Once this notion is accepted, then the door will be open for the acceptance of the “celibate homosexual” in the churches.  The notion of a “celebate homosexual” isn’t built on God’s word or on the transforming power of the gospel, but on the commitment not to act on the self identified perverse lust in one’s heart.  Does the person tempted by another man’s wife self identify as a “celibate adulterer” because he doesn’t act on his lusts?  The Bible does not just condemn homosexual actions, but the perverseness of homosexual attraction IN the heart, the seed bed of all sin.  Is it possible that some angry feminists in the church are “lesbian oriented” without acting on it?
 
“When it comes to gay Christians, there’s one question that causes more debate than any other:
Does God bless gay relationships? Or are gay Christians called to lifelong celibacy? (L)
 
Dee Parsons expects Christians to accept the myth of the “gay Christian.”  And once the gay Christian has been accepted, the question is then posed: Can the gay Christian commit sodomy or homosexual acts with God’s blessing, or must he/she remain celibate for life?  It seems here that Dee Parsons is not only opening the door of the church to “gay celibate Christians,” but also to the possibility of even gay relationships and gay marriage in the churches.  Of course, God’s word condemns “gay relationships” in the strongest possible terms and no true Christian would ever question or debate if  “God blesses gay relationships.”
 
Dee Parsons isn’t alone in advocating for homosexual church leaders, for example, the Pacific School of Religion is advancing the homosexual agenda to transform churches and Wheaton College now provides a support group for its “Christian” homosexual students.

Dee Parsons’ Hypocrisy in Exposing Pedophiles While Promoting Homosexuals 
 
Dee Parsons is friends with Justin Lee of the Gay Christian Network and has published his articles on Wartburg Watch (L)  It’s noteworthy that Justin Lee does NOT espouse celibacy, but homosexual Christianity.
 
“Justin founded The Gay Christian Network in 2001 as a place for Christ-centered support for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender individuals and those who care about them.” (L)
 
In light of her advocacy for homosexuals in church leadership, it seems the height of hypocrisy that Dee Parsons devotes so much of her blog to exposing pedophiles in “patriarchal” churches.  Does she think that homosexual church leaders will expel pedophiles?  In fact, many homosexuals prey on minors, and they seek out places where they have access to young people–such as churches. Furthermore, the homosexual community actively promotes sex with children.  Dee Parsons is outraged that Covenant Life Church did not excommunicate a pedophile, but she would open the church doors to homosexual men and lesbians, many of whom have a preference for children…
 
Studies Confirm a Strong Pedophilic Predisposition Among Homosexuals 
 

“Child molestation and pedophilia occur far more commonly among homosexuals than among heterosexuals on a per capita basis, according to a new study.
 
“Overwhelming evidence supports the belief that homosexuality is a sexual deviancy often accompanied by disorders that have dire consequences for our culture,” wrote Steve Baldwin in, ‘Child Molestation and the Homosexual Movement,’ soon to be published by the Regent University Law Review…
 
“It is difficult to convey the dark side of the homosexual culture without appearing harsh,” wrote Baldwin. ‘However, it is time to acknowledge that homosexual behavior threatens the foundation of Western civilization – the nuclear family.’
 
“Though the homosexual community and much of the media scoff at such accusations, Baldwin – who chaired the California Assembly’s Education committee, where he fought against support for the homosexual agenda in the state’s public schools – says in his report that homosexual activists’ ‘efforts to target children both for their own sexual pleasure and to enlarge the homosexual movement’ constitute an ‘unmistakable’ attack on ‘the family unit.’
 
“Baldwin’s research is substantiated in a recently completed body of work written by Dr. Judith Reisman, president of the Institute for Media Education and author of numerous authoritative books debunking sexual myths, including ‘Kinsey, Crimes & Consequences.’
 
“In her thesis – also written for the Regent University Law Review – Reisman cited psychologist Eugene Abel, whose research found that homosexuals ‘sexually molest young boys with an incidence that is occurring from five times greater than the molestation of girls. …’
 
Abel also found that non-incarcerated ‘child molesters admitted from 23.4 to 281.7 acts per offender … whose targets were males.’
 
‘The rate of homosexual versus heterosexual child sexual abuse is staggering,’ said Reisman, who was the principal investigator for an $800,000 Justice Department grant studying child pornography and violence. ‘Abel’s data of 150.2 boys abused per male homosexual offender finds no equal (yet) in heterosexual violations of 19.8 girls…’
 
Gay press promotes sex with children
 
“Baldwin says his research not only ‘confirms that homosexuals molest children at a rate vastly higher than heterosexuals,’ but it found that ‘the mainstream homosexual culture’ even ‘commonly promotes sex with children.’…
 
“‘The editorial board of the leading pedophile academic journal, Paidika, is dominated by prominent homosexual scholars such as San Francisco State University professor John DeCecco, who happens to edit the Journal of Homosexuality,’ Baldwin wrote.
 
During his research, he also found:
 
“The Journal of Homosexuality recently published a special double-issue entitled, ‘Male Intergenerational Intimacy,’ containing many articles portraying sex between men and minor boys as loving relationships. One article said parents should look upon the pedophile who loves their son ‘not as a rival or competitor, not as a theft of their property, but as a partner in the boy’s upbringing, someone to be welcomed into their home.’
 
“In 1995 the homosexual magazine ‘Guide’ said, ‘We can be proud that the gay movement has been home to the few voices who have had the courage to say out loud that children are naturally sexual’ and ‘deserve the right to sexual expression with whoever they choose. …’ The article went on to say: ‘Instead of fearing being labeled pedophiles, we must proudly proclaim that sex is good, including children’s sexuality … we must do it for the children’s sake.’
 
“Larry Kramer, the founder of ACT-UP, a noted homosexual activist group, wrote in his book, ‘Report from the Holocaust: The Making of an AIDS Activist’: ‘In those instances where children do have sex with their homosexual elders, be they teachers or anyone else, I submit that often, very often, the child desires the activity, and perhaps even solicits it.’
 
Homosexuality ‘youth-oriented’?
 
“‘Research on the homosexual lifestyle confirms it is almost exclusively a youth-oriented culture,’ Baldwin wrote. ‘Very few gays exhibit preference for older men.’
 
“‘Some admit to focus on teenage boys,’ he said, ‘some on prepubescent boys, and many cross over between categories.’
 
“A 1988 study detailed in Baldwin’s report found that most pedophiles even consider themselves to be ‘gay.’ According to the study, ‘Archives of Sexual Behavior,’ some 86 percent of pedophiles described themselves as homosexual or bisexual. Also, the study found, the number of teenage male prostitutes who identify as homosexuals has risen from 10 percent to 60 percent in the past 15 years.
 
“When asked what he thought about critics who attempt to debunk his research, Baldwin said the results speak for themselves.
 
“‘For them to say this theory is false is to call many of the homosexual movement’s leaders liars,’ he said. ‘Most of my evidence comes right from the gay community.’
 
“I managed to find enough evidence that my thesis – child molestation is an integral part of the homosexual movement – is a valid thesis,’ Baldwin told WorldNetDaily.
 
“Other experts have also found a distinct pattern between child sex abusers and the incidence of homosexuality…
 
“‘What … does the academic literature say about the relationship between homosexuality and child molestation? Quite a bit, actually,’ he wrote, quoting data compiled by the Family Research Institute: ‘Scientific studies confirm a strong pedophilic predisposition among homosexuals.'”
 
WADE BURLESON: THE WARTBURG WATCH’S INSPIRATION AND PASTOR

Wade Burleson is the pastor of Emmanuel Enid Church, a Southern Baptist church in Enid, OK.  He has spent much of his adult life associated with the Southern Baptist Convention as he once said, “I bleed Southern Baptist blood.”  Many of his ancestors have been Southern Baptists (even prominent members) and his father pastored a Southern Baptist church which had the distinction of numbering Rick Warren among its members.  In addition to or in conjunction with his church duties, he has also worked closely with several government agencies including NASA, DEA, FBI and Homeland Security.  He is also a historian having written many posts of historical interest on his Istoria Ministries blog.
 
1. Wade Burleson Inspired The Wartburg Watch
 
In her introduction to Wade Burleson, Deb Martin says that she and Dee Parsons are close friends with Wade Burleson and have been guests at his home. She also says that they have been reading his blog since the fall of 2008 (even religiously) and that he was the inspiration for The Wartburg Watch.
 
​”One of the great joys we have experienced here at TWW is the wonderful friendship we have established with Wade Burleson and his wife Rachelle. Last December Dee and I traveled to Oklahoma and visited with the Burlesons for an entire weekend. Words cannot adequately express how grateful we are for them and their wonderful Christ-centered church.
 
“We’re not sure how long Wade has been reading our posts here at TWW, but I remember when Dee and I first discovered Wade’s blog. It was in the fall of 2008, and we were becoming extremely concerned about trends we were noticing in conservative circles of Christendom…
 
“I remember sending Dee an e-mail in late 2008 with a link to one of Wade’s posts and stating: ‘I don’t know anything about Wade Burleson, but I really like what he writes!’ We read Wade’s blog religiously because he gave us hope…It should come as no surprise that Wade Burleson was the inspiration for The Wartburg Watch, although he had no idea of his tremendous impact on us until very recently.”
 
Wade Burleson was the inspiration for Wartburg Watch and gave Dee Parsons and Deb Martin hope. Hope for what? That their agenda (feminism) could prevail in the conservative circles of Christendom?
 
2. Wade Burleson is The Wartburg Watch’s E-Church pastor 
 
Continuing from Deb Martin’s introduction to Wade Burleson:
 
“We are extremely honored that Wade has graciously consented to our request to feature his sermons here at TWW for our readers’ spiritual nourishment. We have been highly impressed by his authenticity, and we are thrilled to share his messages with you on a weekly basis.
 
“Clearly, he is a man of conviction, and we greatly respect his honesty and transparency. If the SBC had listened to godly men like Wade, perhaps the denomination wouldn’t be in such a downward spiral…
 
According to Dee Parsons:
 
“‘Pastors like Wade Burleson are rare, and we are so honored to be featuring his messages at our EChurch@Wartburg beginning this weekend. We conclude with a shout out to all of you from Wade. We pray he will touch you wherever you are in your walk with Christ.’
 
“My name is Wade Burleson. Rachelle, my wife of thirty years, and I are friends of Dee and Wanda (aka Deb) at The Wartburg Watch. We are participating in the formation of EChurch@Wartburg because we have a heart for people who love Christ but have been hurt by the church.”
 
3. Wade Burleson’s Masonic / Merovingian Connections

​When I looked up information about Wade Burleson’s ancestors, I found that most, if not all, were influential and high ranking Freemasons, a fact that is conspicuously absent from his writings given that he is a historian who has written extensively about his family. And notwithstanding his Christian profession, I have found evidence that Wade Burleson teaches several heretical doctrines that are rooted in the Jewish Kabbalah (the basis for Freemasonry).

A. His Family
 
1.) The Cherrys 

Leaders of the Knights Templar

Wade Burleson’s mother is Mary Cherry. (L)  According to Wade Burleson’s history of the Cherry family, the Cherrys who invaded England became leaders of the Knights Templar who then became known as Freemasons.
 
“Tradition has it that the De Cher’ries who invaded England with William the Conqueror became leading members of the Knights Templar during the Crusades (1095 to 1291 AD)… After coming to England, the Knights Templar organization became known as the Free Masons.” (L)
 
“Cherry is Sephardic-Cherry is specifically a Spanish Jewish last name so most people with that name in their geneology [sic] someone has directly Jewish ancestry from their maternal side.” (L)
 
Knights Templars were Merovingian Jews
 
It’s been documented that the Knights Templar were Jews of the Merovingian bloodline who sought refuge in Scotland.
 
“However, previous Watch Unto Prayer reports document that the Crusaders were the Knights Templars who were Merovingian Jews…” (L)
 
“Merovingian literature establishes that the Knights Templar were Jews of the Diaspora whose consuming interest was to return to the Holy Land in order to rebuild Solomon’s Temple and reestablish the Kingdom of Israel. The Templars maintain that they directly descended from the Jews who were taken captive by the Romans at the siege of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. Compelling evidence of this claim is found in the various rituals of Royal Arch Freemasonry, which reenact the history of the Jews of the Diaspora in anticipation of their return to Palestine to rebuild the Temple of Solomon.” (L)
 
“The Merovingians became the royalty of Europe, having claimed Jewish descent from King David, King Solomon and, posturing as Christians, from Jesus Christ through Mary Magdalene!” (L)
 
The Merovingians are descendants of a satanic bloodline from which the Antichrist and False Prophet will come. (L)  Read The Merovingian Dynasty to learn much more.
 
Having ancestors who were leaders of the Knights Templar would make Wade Burleson of Merovingian Jewish descent.
 
2.) Rufus Burleson (1823-1901) 

Southern Baptist and President of Baylor
 
“Wade’s paternal ancestors, the Burlesons, also originated in England and came to the Carolinas in the early 1700’s…Wade is a cousin to Rufus Columbus Burleson (1823-1901), former President of Baylor University and Pastor of FBC Houston…” (L)
 
Rufus Burleson was the second president of Baylor University and served two terms (1851-1861), (1886-1897).  He twice served as president of the Baptist General Convention of Texas in the late 1800’s.  He was the pastor of Baptist Church in Independence, TX and preached at First Baptist Church of Houston, TX.
 
Chaplain of Waco Masonic Lodge for 30+ Years

Rufus Burleson was made a Mason in 1853. (L)  He was the chaplain of Waco Masonic Lodge #92 for more than 30 years.
 
“Bell’s year [1901] was also singular in that the Baylor legend Brother Rufus C. Burleson, Chaplain of Waco 92 for some 30+ years, attended a lodge meeting and gave a speech dedicated to Masonic duty, in which he begged for increased attendance and activity. He would die just a few months later.” (L)
 
Baptized Sam Houston: Royal Arch Mason who Established Grand Lodge of Texas

Rufus Burleson baptized Sam Houston on November 19, 1854. (L)  Sam Houston was of Scottish descent.
 
“Scotland has had long historical connections with Texas…Sam Houston (1793-1863) who gained Texas its independence by leading his troops to victory over the Mexicans at the Battle of San Jacinto, was also of Scottish ancestry originating from Houston, Renfrewshire.” (L)
 
Houston (/ˈhuːstən/ HOO-stən) is a village in the council area of Renfrewshire and the larger historic county of the same name in the west central Lowlands of Scotland. (L)
 
“Sam Houston was the son of Major Samuel Houston and Elizabeth Paxton. Houston’s paternal ancestry is often traced to his great-great grandfather Sir John Houston, who built a family estate in Scotland in the late seventeenth century.” (L)
 
Sam Houston was the 7th governor of Tennessee (1827-29); the first and third president of the Republic of Texas (1836-38, 1841-44); U.S. senator from Texas (1846-59) and the 7th governor of Texas (1859-61).
 
“He [Sam Houston] received his degrees in Cumberland Lodge No. 8, Nashville, Tennessee April 19, June 20, and July 22nd, 1817…he was a charter member of Nashville Lodge No. 37. He served as junior warden, and in 1824 attended grand lodge as a past master…He affiliated with Holland Lodge No. 36 of La. in 1837, and this became Holland Lodge No. 1 of Texas. On December 20, 1837 he presided over the meeting which established the Grand Lodge of Texas…He was undoubtedly a Royal Arch Mason, for he was knighted in Washington Commandery No. 1, Washington, D.C., February 23, 1853.” (L)
 
Descendent of the Byrd Family
 
“Rufus Burleson’s mother was a direct lineal descendent of Sir William Byrd, founder of Richmond, Virginia.” (L)  William Byrd was a member of the Royal Society and in the 1720s served as the London agent of the House of Burgesses in Virginia. (L)
 
William Byrd had two notable descendants in the 20th century who were Freemasons: naval officer, pioneering aviator and explorer Richard Evelyn Byrd and Virginia Governor and U.S. Senator Harry F. Byrd. (L)
 
Governor Harry F. Byrd “was raised in Hiram Lodge No. 21 at Winchester in Nov., 1925 and a member of the AASR (SJ) at Alexandria, Va. receiving the degrees in Oct. 1929. In 1943 he received the 33 degree. (L)
 
Richard E. Byrd “became a member of Federal Lodge No. 1, Washington, D.C. on March 19, 1921 and affiliated with Kane Lodge No. 454, New York City, Sept. 18, 1928 (see Elisha Kent Kane). He is a member of National Sojourner Chapter No. 3 at Washington. He and his pilot, Bernt Balchen q.v. dropped Masonic flags on the two poles Balchen also added his Shrine fez. In the Antarctic expedition of 1933-35, 60 of the 82 members were Freemasons and on Feb. 5, 1935 established First Antarctic Lodge No. 777 of New Zealand constitution. d. March 11, 1957.” (L)
 
3.) Edward Burleson (1798-1851)

Texas Vice President and Army General 

“Wade is a cousin…to General Edward Burleson (1798-1851), former Vice-President of the Republic of Texas.” (L)
 
Edward Burleson was born in Texas, was a general in the Texas Army during the Texas War of Independence; member of Texas Republic House of Representatives, 1837-38; member of Texas Republic Senate, 1838-39; Vice President of the Texas Republic under Sam Houston, 1841-44; candidate for President of the Texas Republic, 1844; member of Texas state senate, 1846-51; died in office 1851. (L)
 
Most Excellent Grand High Priest of the Grand Royal Arch Chapter of the Republic of Texas 
 
Edward Burleson was initiated into Masonry on March 22, 1826. (L)  He was Junior Deacon of Temple Lodge No. 4 in Houston, TX (1938); Master of Austin Lodge No. 12 in Austin, TX (1842); Grand Junior Warden for the Grand Lodge (1843); Grand Marshall (1846); Grand Junior Deacon (1847); and Grand Standard Bearer in 1849.  He was at the Convention creating the Grand Royal Arch Chapter of the Republic of Texas and was Third Most Excellent Grand High Priest of the Grand Royal Arch Chapter of the Republic of Texas (1844-1845) (L)
 
4.) Albert Sidney Burleson (1863-1937) 

Postmaster General of the USA

According to Wade Burleson, his distant cousin was Albert Sidney Burleson, the Postmaster General of the United States and special envoy from President Woodrow Wilson. (L)
 
Albert Sidney Burleson received a B.A. degree from Baylor University in 1881…He served as assistant city attorney of Austin from 1885 to 1890, and in 1891 he was appointed attorney of the Twenty-sixth Judicial District. Among the friends he made during this time was Edward M. House*, who later kept Burleson’s name in consideration for a position in President Woodrow Wilson’s cabinet. (L)
 
*Edward Mandell House was a Jew and an agent for the House of Rothschild.  House secretly directed U.S. affairs during the Woodrow Wilson administration. (L)
 
Texas Freemason
 
Albert S Burleson was a Freemason (L) and a “member of the Masonic bodies of Austin, Texas.” (L)
 
5.) William Leigh (1790-1873)

Baptist Leader
 
William Leigh was the grandfather of Rufus Burleson. (L)  He was born in Amelia County, Virginia, Oct. 4, 1790 and was the first postmaster of Leighton, AL (1824-1847) which was named in his honor.  He was a missionary Baptist preacher for 63 years and served as pastor and leader in the Muscle Shoals Baptist Association. (L)

Grand Master of the Alabama Masons

William Leigh was a charter member of Leighton Masonic Lodge No. 43 and served as Grand Master of the Alabama Masons (1833-1835). (L) The Masons erected a monument at his unmarked grave in 1931. (L)  He conferred a Masonic degree on future Texas governor AC Horton. (L)
 
Father of Mrs Richard Byrd Burleson
 
William Leigh’s daughter was Sarah Leigh Burleson (Mrs Richard Byrd Burleson). (L)
 
“Richard Byrd Burleson was the brother of Baylor University President Rufus C Burleson…Richard joined his brother Rufus at Baylor University in 1857 when Baylor’s board of trustees offered Richard the Chair of Natural Science. (L)
 
B. Baylor University 

R.E.B. Baylor was a Freemason
 
Wade Burleson attended Baylor University where he met his future wife. (L)  Baylor University was founded by R.E.B. Baylor who served under Edward Burleson, in 1840 at the battle of Plum Creek. (L)  R.E.B. Baylor became a Mason in 1825.
 
“He served as chaplain of the Grand Lodge of Texas Masons in 1843, 1845, and 1847. In 1853 he assisted in the organization of a lodge at Gay Hill in Washington County, his home until his death.” (L)
 
Founded and Controlled by Freemasonry

“Robert E. Baylor was one of eight Masons who petitioned for a charter for Baylor University in 1845. ‘Every president of Baylor University has been a Master Mason'” (L) and “Every President of Baylor from Rufus Burleson to Herb Reynolds has been a Baptist Mason (L)
 
“Baylor even has an intimate association with the Masons, said Roger Olson, George W. Truett Theological Seminary professor.  Every Baylor president until Robert B. Sloan was a member of the Masonic order, Olson said…
 
“For example, when a school building is first erected, the Masons are very involved with funding and building, Waden said. To make their mark, a cornerstone is laid to demonstrate Mason involvement, Waden said. At Baylor, the Masons placed a cornerstone at the Bill Daniel Student Center… (L)
 
C. Southern Baptist Convention
 
Wade Burleson said, “My forefathers, men like Rufus Burleson, have been Southern Baptists since the mid-1800’s. My grandfather was a SBC evangelist, my father has been a SBC pastor for over five decades, and I am now in my third decade of pastoring a church affiliated with the SBC.” (L)
 
“My forefather, Dr. Rufus Burleson, was President of Baylor University and twice served as President of the Baptist General Convention of Texas in the late 1800’s. I myself recently completed a second term as President of the Baptist General Convention of Oklahoma. I bleed Southern Baptist blood.” (L)  Wade Burleson was also a former trustee of the International Mission Board of the SBC.
 
Front for Freemasonry
 
The following has been taken from Freemasonry and the Southern Baptist Convention:
 
“Lamentation is often heard concerning the apostate condition of the Southern Baptist Convention. However, there is a reasonable explanation for the broad path which the SBC is traveling, namely important statistics regarding the number of Freemasons who hold membership in the SBC, as published by Biblical Discernment Ministries:
 
‘U.S. membership [in the Masons] is claimed at about three million, with about five million   worldwide… The official magazine of Masonry in the U.S. is titled New Age. Some church denominations are also led by avowed Masons. For example, a 1991 survey by the Southern Baptist Convention Sunday School Board found that 14% of SBC pastors and 18% of SBC deacon board chairs are Masons. It is also estimated that SBC members comprise 37% of total U.S. lodge membership. (A 2000 updated SBC report found that over 1,000 SBC pastors are Masons.)’
 
“37% of 3,000,000 would have been 1,110,000 Masons who held membership in the SBC. This estimate was for 1991. How many are there today? Also, how many Masons attend SBC churches but do not hold formal memberships? And how many Masons belong to other Christian denominations? (A Freemason once informed us that the Masons encourage their members to go to church.)
 
“In 1993, the Southern Baptist Convention published a  Report on Freemasonry which noted the many fine SBC leaders who were also Freemasons as well as many points of agreement between Freemasonry and Christianity, along with some areas of disagreement between the two. The verdict of the SBC as to whether or not a Southern Baptist could also be a member of a Masonic Lodge was not based on the Scriptural prohibition of I Cor. 10:21: ‘Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord’s table, and of the table of devils.’  Instead the Southern Baptist Convention appealed to the old Masonic cliché regarding every man’s ‘liberty of conscience’:
 
‘In light of the fact that many tenets and teachings of Freemasonry are not compatible with Christianity and Southern Baptist doctrine, while others are compatible with Christianity and Southern Baptist doctrine, we therefore recommend that consistent with our denomination’s deep convictions regarding the priesthood of the believer and the autonomy of the local church, membership in a Masonic Order be a matter of personal conscience.'”
 
List of Baptist Masons  
 
Click here to read a list of some famous Baptist Masons.
 
D. Emmanuel Baptist Church, Enid OK

Its Motto
 
Wade Burleson states that the “unofficial motto” of his Emmanuel Baptist Church in Enid, Oklahoma is “In essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty; and in all things, charity.” (L)  This motto, often attributed to Augustine of Hippo, is a formula for and a graphical expression of Masonic government.
 
According to Masonic Law, History and Miscellany: Masonic Law: A Compendium of the Fundamental Principles of Intermasonic Comity: Part II, Chapter 1:17 by James T Holly published by American Freemason Vol. 7, Oct. 1858:
 
“Hence, then, the whole theory of Masonic Government may be graphically expressed in this apposite* formula, ‘In essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty, and in all things, charity.’  And in fulfilling the spirit of this motto for the future, alone rests the secret of universal harmony and Fraternal cooperation among all portions of the Masonic brotherhood throughout the world.” (L)
​*apposite means appropriate or suitable
 
Jesus Christ is the Pyramid’s Capstone

The Great Pyramid of Giza with its missing capstone is important in Freemasonry.  The following was taken from The Watchtower and The Masons, p.68:
 
“Concerning the Great Pyramid, the Freemason book  The Signs & Symbols of Primordial Man explains…’the Great Pyramid of Ghizeh was the first and still remains the greatest Masonic Temple in the world, open to all Masons who can read symbolically what was written in stone ages ago…'”
 
In the picture below, Wade Burleson is seen preaching at his church in front of 3 pyramids. Directly above the middle pyramid, which is missing its capstone, is the phrase “Jesus Is.”  This looks like Wade Burleson is conveying to his church members the deception that Jesus Christ is the missing capstone of the Great Pyramid (when the missing capstone of the Great Pyramid actually represents Lucifer.)
 
“The detached Capstone of the [Great] Pyramid represents Lucifer who, in the person of the Antichrist, will preside over Eretz Israel during the Millennium.” (L)

Berit Kjos: Her Globalist and New Age Associations 

“For there is nothing hid, which shall not be manifested; neither was anything kept secret, but that it should come abroad.” Mark 4:22
 
The Controlled Opposition 
 
What is a controlled opposition?  Allow me to quote from www.sweetliberty.org.
 
“In the effort to establish a singular global government, the powers that be recognized that opposition to their plan would be evident and unavoidable. These opposition forces must certainly be neutralized and their voices squelched, if the socialists’ plans to conquer the world were to be rendered successful.
 
“How can one keep leaders arising out of the teaming masses to speak out against the plan in favor of freedom? The diabolical would-be dictators understood the only way to accomplish this, was to create the perception that someone was already fighting the battle of liberty for them. Someone who both supported the plan, yet spoke out against it. Someone who would gain the trust of the masses, then employ diversionary tactics, leading them into tyranny.
 
“These are the controlled opposition. They come in many different forms, and organizations, and purport to stand for various causes. Some fill pulpits, others occupy public offices. Several are broadcasters. All are deceivers. All are players of a manipulation process called the Hegelian Dialectic.
 
“They hammer at issues, are vocal about matters that appeal to Christians and conservatives, and even do some good deeds. But their efforts always fail to mobilize their supporters to take the right action, leading the majority who never see through their scheme to ask, ‘Who silenced the outcry?'”
 
The Communitarian Agenda and its Controlled Opposition
Anticipating opposition to their Communitarian agenda (see What is the Church Growth Movement?), the conspiring wolves in sheep’s clothes created a “controlled opposition” front to silence the outcry.  Barbara Aho, a Christian researcher, has identified one of the many controlled opposition fronts being the Discernment Ministries. This revelation is the result of two years of research motivated by the discovery of a secret meeting in 1997 involving the Discernment Ministry leaders and the British Israelite and Unitarian minister, Sir Anthony Buzzard (Dean Gotcher was present at this meeting and Berit Kjos was a speaker at their 1997 Discernment Conference).
 
According to Barbara Aho, “The desperate and deceptive attempts of these pseudo ministries to cover their tracks should serve as a warning to all, that the so-called discernment network is really a controlled opposition movement, comprised of various fronts whose purpose is to disinform as well as to control and neutralize the opposition that is bound to arise against the main conspiracy. Fronts in a controlled opposition movement also work to identify dissidents for future elimination and to control all of the information concerning the conspiracy, so that no one gets close to the truth. Which is why the discernment organizations are so determined to discredit, and have even tried to destroy, Watch Unto Prayer.” (Listen to the audio program, Controlled Opposition Fronts [Aug. 4, 2005], to learn more.)
 
Of interest, three of the individuals that Mrs. Aho has identified as being part of this particular controlled opposition: Lynn Leslie, Sarah Leslie, and Berit Kjos are featured on Dean Gotcher’s website as having recommended his ministry.
 
Berit Kjos has written extensively about the dangers of globalism, the communitarian agenda, the Purpose Driven movement, the New Age movement, the occult, as well as other issues that are of concern to Christians.  And though it may seem to many that her opposition to these evils is genuine, the evidence indicates that her “opposition” is within limitations and is merely “controlled.” As many Christians don’t know about her globalist connections and her not so subtle advocacy for the New Age movement, allow me to list just a few things about Berit Kjos that will raise doubts about her Christian profession.
 
Berit Kjos Signed the Cornwall Declaration on Environmental Stewardship
 
The Cornwall Declaration on Environmental Stewardship is an environmental statement of faith signed by Jews, Catholics and Protestants.  It could be considered to be a “Christianized” version of the UN Earth Charter.
 
According to Barbara Aho, “The Cornwall Declaration and the coalition built after it, the Interfaith Coalition for Environmental Stewardship (ICES), are ecumenical initiatives which make environmental stewardship a religious issue and incorporate the New Age philosophy and agenda in the programs of Protestantism, Catholicism and Judaism.
 
Some time ago, ICES removed the names of all but the “notable signers” which included James Dobson, Bill Bright, Chuck Colson and D James Kennedy. The list of “other signers” which includes Berit Kjos is available by clicking here.
 
Berit Kjos was/is a Board Member for the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow

The Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow (CFACT) is an environmental think tank planning a better society with alternative solutions for the environment. CFACT also participates in numerous UN summits and World Trade Organization (WTO) conferences. Berit Kjos was listed as sitting on the Board of the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow, but several years ago and perhaps in an effort to hide her affiliation, her name was removed from the list.
 
The CFACT Statement of Purpose states, “David Rothbard and Craig Rucker currently serve, respectively, as President and Executive Director of the Committee For A Constructive Tomorrow.”
 
“Rothbard and Rucker are often called upon to provide expertise to a wide range of government, media, and industry forums, and have been active participants in various international meetings including recent United Nations summits in Cairo, Istanbul, Kyoto, and Buenos Aires.” 
 
“Pressing Toward a Sustainable Future,” by David Rothbard, states, “In summary, CFACT’s position on sustainable development for the developing world is very much the same position espoused 20 years ago by Chairman Gro Brundtland [then-Chairman of the World Commission on Environment and Development.]”
 
Gro Brundtland, a fellow Norwegian of Berit Kjos, was Prime Minister of Norway, and later became Director General of the UN’s World Health Organization. The Commission she chaired developed the political concept of sustainable development and provided the momentum for both Agenda 21 and the 1992 Earth Summit headed by Maurice Strong, a prominent member of the Commision.

The article by David Rothbard also states, “CFACT’s methodology for sustainable development in the developing world is akin to that recently adopted by the European Union…”
 
CFACT wants to create Communitarian partnerships as seen by its desire to implement its international SEFED program in Mexico.  “SEFED (Social Entrepreneurship and Free-Market Environmental Demonstration) works through building partnerships among businesses, government entities, non-governmental organizations, and individuals to remove barriers to success placed by governmental, banking, and other institutions and replace them with bridges built by SEFED partners.”
 
These SEFED goals match the Communitarian goals of the globalists in creating a “Healthy Society” through a merger of the government, business, and social sectors. The CFACT website, which is filled with Communitarian buzzwords, calls for things like empowerment, measurable goals and new mindsets. CFACT seems to be implementing the same globalist, Communitarian agenda that Berit Kjos warns against in her articles.
 
I have copied the list of CFACT board members which includes not only Berit Kjos, but Catholic priests, people from the U.S Dept. of the Interior, the Hudson Institute, as well as the President Emeritus of Rockefeller University. This list of board members can be seen here: http://www.cfact.org/WhatsCFACT.htm 
 
Berit Kjos’ New Age Visualization Teachings
 
In his March, 1993 newsletter “The New Age Adversary Bulletin,” Christian researcher David Harris wrote regarding Berit Kjos’ New Age visualization teachings:
 
Either the present documentation I have on this lady is false, or we have another New Age change agent successfully spreading false doctrine within the professing church.”
 
Mr. Harris was specifically referring to Berit Kjos’ usage of a formula that has been a teaching tool for the New Age movement, I + V= R, where I is imagination, V is visualization and R equals realization.  This wording can be seen in a tract she wrote called “Behold him in His Word.”
 
Berit Kjos is Ecumenical and Promotes the New Age Movement
 
In “The Little Cloud Report,” Spring, 1996, in the article “What’s wrong with Berit?”, BE and CD Blinstrub wrote, “The evidence is abundant to convict Mrs. Kjos of being ecumenical and a promoter, whether knowingly or unknowingly, of promoting the New Age.”
 
Berit Kjos authored Under the Spell of Mother Earth which promotes the New Age Agenda

In reading Berit Kjos’ book, Under the Spell of Mother Earth, it makes one wonder if her intention was to expose the New Age agenda or to subtlely promote the New Age agenda; for in Under the Spell of Mother Earth, Berit Kjos recommends and references books that heavily promote the New Age agenda.  For the first example, in the appendix of Under the Spell of Mother Earth which is deceptively titled “Family Projects and Helpful Resources” p.170, Berit Kjos suggests that “The Earthworks Group” have “some great ideas” in a book called 50 Simple Things Kids Can Do to Save the Earth.
 
According to BE and CD Blinstrub, “It is in reading this book, that your Christian child will be manipulated into a hard-core New Age agenda.” On page 7 of 50 Simple Things Kids can do to Save the Earth under the section “A Note to Kids” it states, “Kids have a lot of power. Whenever you say something, grown-ups have to listen. Whenever you care about something, grown-ups need to care too. Whenever you do something, grown-ups have to pay attention. They don’t always tell you this, but it’s true. So if saving the earth is important to you, then grown-ups will have to follow along.” This, of course, reverses the God given order in the home.
 
In Under the Spell of Mother Earth, p.171, Berit Kjos recommends another book called “Earthbook for Kids” by Linda Schwartz.  Kjos says she recommends this book because it contains instructions on how to save paper by making your own cloth lunch bags.
 
According to the Blinstrubs, “Earth Book for Kids heavily pushes the Earth Day political agenda and suggests that children ‘make every day earth day.'” In Earth Book for Kids p.184, “children are encouraged to call the earth their mother.” On p.106, “people are referred to as animals.”
 
At the back of Earth Book for Kids is a list of organizations which includes Greenpeace, the Sierra Club, Citizens Clearing House for Hazardous Waste (a militant Green group), The New Alchemy Institute, and the World Federalist Association which is located at 777 United Nations Plaza in New York.
 
It does make one wonder, if Berit Kjos really just wanted kids to learn to make cloth lunch bags, then why didn’t she simply give the instructions herself? Why did she feel the need to recommend this dangerous New Age book to children?
 
In Under the Spell of Mother Earth p. 175, Berit Kjos refers to the book “Target Earth” calling it a “wonderful Christian atlas.”  On the cover of  Target Earth is the subtitle: “The necessity of diversity in a holistic perspective on world mission.” The list of contributors and acknowledgments in this book include Loren Cunningham and C Peter Wagner.
 
According to The Little Cloud Report, “Target Earth is probably one of the most dangerous books on evangelism. We have a really big problem with a reference book [Target Earth] filled with mission field statistics that relies heavily on data from the UN and the Vatican.” And “Target Earth borrows extensively from the UN report called ‘Our Common Goal’ (Target p.3). And on page 85 of Target Earth, the UN ‘Declaration of Human Rights’ is printed in full.”
 
The author of Target Earth, Frank Jansen, a fellow Norwegian of Berit Kjos, stated on page 169, “My dream is to see a whole new generation of missionaries and WORLD CHRISTIANS, called from every walk of life.” And it does make one wonder who is aiming at this “Target Earth?” God? Or the fiery darts of the wicked? (Eph. 6:16)
 
In Under the Spell of Mother Earth, p. 174, Berit Kjos encourages parents to help save the rainforest by buying New Ager’s Ben and Jerry’s “Rainforest Crunch” ice cream.
 
On page 150 of Under the Spell of Mother Earth, Berit Kjos states, “During the Middle Ages, God preserved his scriptures in monasteries isolated from the surrounding spiritual compromise.” In truth, the monasteries hid the scriptures from the common man in obedience to the pope. She seems to be implying that the monastery was a holding line against spiritual compromise.
 
On p. 147 and 148, B Kjos calls Roman Catholicism “distorted Christianity.”
 
Berit Kjos seems to disobey the Biblical command to abstain from all appearance of evil. According to the Little Cloud Report, in Under the Spell of Mother Earth, “B Kjos tells of her adventures hanging out with Greens (p.25), hiking with a lesbian witch (p.28), celebrating Earth Day (p.14-15), partaking in an Indian ceremony, ‘It was fun.’ (p.50), visiting occult headquarters (p.47), and even taking on the Dalai Lama alone (p.157-160).”
 
According to the Blinstrubs: “There are a great many more inconsistencies, confusions, contradictions and compromises that could be pointed out about Mrs. Kjos’ writing. It would literally take a book to do the subject justice.”
 
Berit Kjos States the Lausanne Movement was of God

Berit Kjos wrote an article called “Waiting for a Global Kingdom, not the Coming King” in which she stated that the pro-catholic, ecumenical Lausanne movement was of God.
 
“The Lausanne movement has served a vital function of awakening the church to the urgency of the great commission. Surely the intentions of Billy Graham and other faithful visionaries and organizers have been to serve God and to share the gospel everywhere.” Click here to learn the true intentions of those who organized the Lausanne movement.
 
Watch Unto Prayer lists Berit Kjos on its webpage, “Ministries Facilitating the Transition to Lausanne-Addendum.”
 
Berit Kjos Attends UN Conferences 
 
Berit Kjos frequently mentions the UN and she attends their conferences.  For example, she attended the UN Conference on Human Settlements (Habitat II) June 3-14, 1996 in Istanbul while registered as a reporter.
 
According to Berit Kjos, “During the 1996 UN Conference on Human Settlements (Habitat II), I attended a day-long ‘Dialogue’ on the meaning of ‘Solidarity’ at Istanbul’s elegant Ciragan Palace. Registered as a reporter, I received a list of 21 panel members. It included UNESCO’s Director General Federico Mayor, the now discredited UN leader Maurice Strong, World Bank Vice President Ismail Serageldin, and Millard Fuller who founded Habitat for Humanity…
 
“During a break, I asked moderator Robert McNeil to define solidarity for me.”

​Berit Kjos is Associated with the Council for National Policy

According to Watch Unto Prayer, the Council for National Policy (CNP) which evolved from the intelligence arm of the John Birch Society controls the “Christian Right” in the US.  The CNP which is considered to be the religious front for the Council on Foreign Relations, is a globalist organization and is anti-American to an extreme.  Watch Unto Prayer is quoted below concerning Berit Kjos’ associations with members of the CNP.

Berit Kjos – Frequent speaker on platforms which include Council for National Policy (CNP) members. The Prophezine Prophecy Alliance profile on Berit Kjos has listed CNP member organizations which have provided speaking/writing platforms for Berit: Constitutional Coalition [Donna Hearne], Concerned Women for America/Beverly LaHaye Live [Beverly and Tim LaHaye], The 700 Club [Pat Robertson], Point of View [Marlin Maddoux], and (Citizens for Excellence in Education/Robert Simonds [Coalition on Revival]). Compass Magazine (as in Square & Compass?) featured Larry Burkett and Berit Kjos on the cover with ads for Dallas Seminary with Chuck Swindoll, Steeling of the Mind Conference with CNP members Alan Sears (Alliance Defense Fund), John Ankerberg (Theological Research Institute), and Chuck Missler.”
 
Kjos Ministries’ Web Address has Occult Significance
 
The name of Berit Kjos’ website is Kjos Ministries and its web address is “crossroad.to.”  It seems odd that a Christian ministry that purports to warn Christians about dangers from the occult would use for its web address a term that has occult significance.
 
 
Crossroads are considered sacred in almost all magical traditions. A crossroads is a universally accepted place to hold rituals, leave offerings, or dispose of items you wish to be rid of …It is believed tat Hecate rules over the three-way crossroads. She can see the past, present and future, It is said that if you should approach a three-way crossroads at night, you would hear her black dogs howling. Her altars have been erected at such places for centuries.
 
“The four-way crossroad are considered to be powerful because all four directions meet at one point. Dirt, rocks and sticks gathered from such a crossroads are said to have powerful spiritual connections, albeit tricky ones to master. In Greek myths, Oedipus met his fate at the crossroads. From the Yoruban people we have Legha (a god known for his clever tricks) ruling the crossroads.
 
“Ancient people were afraid of what it meant when one direction met another direction. All manner of folklore is available concerning the crossroads. Fairies are said to hand about there, along with ghouls and goblins. Even the Christian Satan is said to roam the crossroads.
 
Earth Witches know that a crossroad is actually a place of sacred transformations, manmade or not. Frequently they see them as a metaphor for transformational points in our lives. In such a capacity the crossroads relate to time.”
 
According to the article, Robert Johnson and the Crossroads Curse, “In rural folklore, the intersection of two roads was often regarded as an evil place, the site of black magic…So according to the legend, Johnson [an American blues singer] went down to the crossroads and made a pact with Satan. The devil promised to fulfill his dreams, thus Johnson traded his eternal soul for his extraordinary talents. Of course, the devil wouldn’t allow him to enjoy his success and the lord of the underworld soon claimed his prize.”
 
Kjos Ministries Listed With Several Other Controlled Opposition Sites

The website, Cabal Times, has listed the “Ten Best Conspiracy Websites.”  The first listed is “Infowars” by Alex Jones.  Alex Jones’ “opposition” to the NWO is merely controlled.  And the same could be said for “Rense,” the second website listed.  Kjos Ministries is listed third.  Others on this list include “Rabbi Barry Chamish” and Lyndon LaRouche’s “Executive Intelligence Review.”  Watch Unto Prayer is a website that truly exposes the NWO with far more information than Kjos Ministries, yet when Watch Unto Prayer was recommended to Cabal Times in a comment it wasn’t approved.
  
Note: “Berit” means “covenant” in Hebrew

“Berit” is a Hebrew word used in the Old Testament for covenant. (Covenants)

How Evangelicals Lost the Culture War Before it Started: LGBTQ Infiltrators and Facilitators

BY REV THOMAS LITTLETON @ Blue Collar Saints

Hundreds of millions of dollars are being spent to change the churches’ Biblical stand on LGBTQ.  In 2014, the Human Rights Campaign (HRC) came to the deep south with $8.5 million to push Project One America with “A Christian Conversation Guide” training manual to organize and mobilize the LGBTQ community into the churches.  The Reformation Project and gay activist Mathew Vines have since made their way into many churches and onto Bible Colleges campuses like Biola University.  Just this week a LGBTQ group won Faculty approval on the Southern Baptist-affiliated Samford University.  Why is this happening?

Distracted and Played

While the Church is being manipulated and distracted, pre K-12 schools are being invaded by the LGBTQ.  The HRC with its “Welcoming Schools,” the Southern Poverty Leadership Conference’s “Teaching Tolerance” and Planned Parenthood’s “Comprehensive Sexuality Education” are making rapid headway into coercive compliance to the new norms  and redefining /countering everything we teach our children about family and sexual purity.  Meanwhile, church leaders have done nothing to inform or rally Christians to oppose this.

Evangelical Collaborators

What SHOULD surprise and SHOCK us is the inside facilitators who have been collaborating with the LGBTQ and exacerbating the issues.  During war time such activity would be considered treasonous and those involved dealt with harshly.  Looking at some hard facts will hopefully provide opportunity for those involved to step up and respond.

Behind the Rainbow Door – Is this an Orgy of Collaborators?

Civilitas Group – Can civility and common ground be the answer to aggressors wanting to redefine marriage, sexuality, gender and faith for our children’s generation?

In January 2015, a gathering of evangelical “thought leaders” organized by Doug Birdsall of the Lausanne Movement agreed that lack of civility and polarization is the biggest threat to society that exists today.  Launching their civility campaign based on the 2012 compromise of Dan Cathy CEO of Chik-Fil-A with the leaders of Campus Pride LGBTQ activist group, the Civilitas board is covenanting to make nice and lead the way to saving society by civil conversations, finding common ground and forming collaborations. Though settling the LGBTQ skirmish of a chicken retailer was motivated more to address PR troubles allowing expansion of its market base, it is held up as the model of Christian civility.  Civilitas also chooses to ignore that redefining marriage, sexuality and gender provide a more CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER to American /Western society.

Also signed on to Civilitas are Fuller Seminary, Wheaton College, and BIOLA University leadership. Biola only a few months later invited “gay theology” activist Mathew Vines to their campus and Biola’s apologetics department soon launched a “Rethink” of how apologetics approaches issues like LGBTQ.  Tim Keller of the PCA, Rick Warren of the SBC, Jim Daly of Focus on the Family coupled with the major players of the Obama Faith Based Partnership advisory team are also Civilitas Board members.  The group agreed to the development and use of a “Civilitas Theory of Social Change” by the sociology departments of Princeton, Yale and the University of Virginia’s Institute for Advanced Studies in Culture.  The IASC boasts intellectual inspiration from the famed Marxist Frankfurt Institute of Social Research.  Interestingly, the IASC director, James Davison Hunter, is credited with having popularized the use of the phrase “Culture War” to describe the past (and touted as non-civil) approach of evangelicals to the activist charged climate which such think tanks are themselves helping to fuel.

Russell Moore

The Southern Baptist ERLC head, Russell Moore, began his ascent to being a key evangelical spokesperson in 2013 and quickly made waves when he declared “the culture wars (a term promoted by IASC’s Hunter) were OVER and WE LOST.  We should back off, make nice (espousing Civility) and just love our gay and lesbian neighbors.” Soon thereafter Moore led the SBC and ERLC conference on “Homosexuality and the Future of Marriage” where a host of change agents with new language and talking points schooled the church on how shameful its attitudes toward homosexuality have been.  The conference came complete with Moore mentor, Dr. Albert Mohler of Southern Seminary, apologizing for 2,000 years of Christians’ being “WRONG on the issue of sexual orientation”.  This was a powerful emotional appeasement yet lacking any scientific or biological basis for such an assertion.  Also came the abandonment of Reparative Therapy which is a broad term regarding counseling for people wanting to exit the LGBTQ lifestyle.  This term may be applied to any Biblical or pastoral counseling that does not affirm homosexuality as a natural desire.  A federal bill is currently in play to outlaw Reparative Therapy nationwide as FRAUD.  The ERLC meetings also included broad new language for homosexuals such as Same Sex Attracted (SSA) Christians, immediately facilitating acceptance of the more controversial “gay Christian” and “Homosexual Christian” terminology.

Though the conversations ignored their presence, activist groups like the Human Rights Campaign, Reformation Project, Gay Christian Network, were physically present and welcomed by the ERLC, Dr. Moore and his staff to the conference.  The Human Rights Campaign was even promised a private session to meet with Russell Moore.  The ERLC staffers boasted to HRC and other activists that Moore as head of the SBC’s ERLC was “rebranding the organization”.  Moore is not finished declaring the loss of the much vilified Culture War or with rehearsing and representing the talking points of those who appointed him. (a private point I personally asked Dr. Albert Mohler in November 2014 – once it was apparent to him that the “marriage battle was lost” if he would then help the church rally against Planned Parenthood’s sexuality education CSE.  I found Dr. Mohler was quite familiar with CSE and referred me to the offices of the ERLC with my concerns, which were quickly dismissed and met with ongoing disinterest.)

Now the Human Rights Campaign and others stand ready to mandate Comprehensive Sexuality Education at the federal, state and local levels. If you are in this struggle with some understanding of the harmful, abusive, demonic origins of encouraged sexual exploration and promiscuity at “whatever age a student feels they are ready” and yet are wondering where your pastoral denominational leaderships are and IF they are aware – at least in the case of the Southern Baptist two top tier leaders – they know and appear to have given the order to ignore constituents and stand down.

Further Southern Baptist Collaboration  Is the money worth the cost?

In 2009, Dr. Frank Page, a two-time President of the Southern Baptist Convention and present CEO of the Executive Committee, joined the Faith Based Partnership Board and Obama Reform Team of the Bush-era Faith-Based Partnership programs.  Brought to the table to develop the outline for these “partnerships for the common good” were a host of interfaith leaders and representatives from the Human Rights Campaign and leading LGBTQ funder, the ARCUS Foundation.

Later in the administration a transgendered board member was added.

Dr. Page and other conservatives agreed to this collaboration for the common good with possibly the most progressive White House in U.S. history and its activist partners who helped defeat any and all Religious Freedom Restoration Acts and legislation or the inclusion of any Religious Exemptions which would protect the religious liberties of conservative churches and ministries involved in Faith-Based Partnership funding.  How much of our current threat to Religious Liberty for Americans can be directly related to these very partnerships?  Did the “Stand Down” orders to evangelicals develop from a “Theory of Impetus” among this rainbow coalition of diverse high level partnerships? Thus far, the Trump administration has failed to address these ongoing threats to ministries which have become government contractors by taking on Faith-Based Partnership tax funding.  If the Trump administration continues to fund these programs with massive amounts of tax dollars, it is a serious tipping point on this trajectory.

Mega Church Mania Partners – Leadership Network and Hartford Institute led by Scott Thumma

Leadership Network recruits, resources, promotes and often helps fund the church plantsof the best and brightest up and coming evangelical leaders.  Bothersome distinctions like theology and doctrine do not matter as Leadership Network has created a very large footprint in the evangelical community over the last 33 years.  With its “invitation only” approach for “innovative /entrepreneurial pastors” few outside its circles could have known its reach or goals until the publishing of the founder, Bob Buford’s book “Drucker and Me”.

The Faith Based Partnership / Multi Sector Collaborations of management theorist, Peter Drucker, are central to Leadership Network’s training and view of the Church as solely a social organization that creates community.  Doctrinal teaching and promotion of individual salvation are determined to be problematic, divisive and down played “for the common good.”   It is no secret that the much lauded and loathed Emergent Church movement, which further divided evangelicals along “postmodern” lines, was the construct, product and proud offspring of direct Leadership Network influence. Conservative denominations saw new superstar preachers created within their camps in the same fashion.

Where it Gets Weird

Leadership Network has long collaborated with the Hartford Institute, based at the Hartford Seminary, CT, and its head researcher, Scott Thumma.  Trend setting and tracking is done in collaborative research on church growth, mega churches and evangelical / cultural /statically driven work of Leadership Network and Hartford Institute. Scott Thumma of Hartford Institute and CEO of Leadership Network, Dave Travis along with in house LN researcher Warren Bird co-author books and white papers on such trends which they helped promote. Examples:

A New Decade of Megachurches

Beyond Megachurch Myths

Where the disturbing part of this collaboration comes into play is when you consider the additional work of the Hartford Institute—its “Gay Religion” research and efforts to wed conservative evangelicals to an antithetical homosexual identity.  Scott Thumma and Hartford not only work with leading organizations of influence among evangelical churches but also promote the gaying of all religious traditions. Scott’s work in particular is focused on “Negotiating a (Gay) Religious Identity: The Case of the Gay Evangelical”.

This effort which has been in play since at least the 1980s, involves the acceptance of BOTH conservative Biblical /evangelical view of homosexuality AND being a homosexual evangelical Christian. This dichotomy is synthesized through a “process of socialization” facilitated and negotiated with the help of groups like Hartford Institute.  The following quote from the 1991 article admits:

For many Evangelical Christians, a homosexual life-style and a conservative religious identity are simply incompatible… Members accomplish this change (reconciling the two opposites) through identity negotiation and socialization.  In other words, they negotiate the traditional religious identity, in very selective areas, through interaction with Good News (the case study group cited in the article).  Members are reconciled to their gayness, but still retain their Evangelical religious identity.”

Thus, Hartford Institute’s work helps a person who is LGBTQ to reconcile their conservative Biblical instruction with their gay identity, and the two acknowledged incompatible lifestyle become one. The individuals so helped are then sent to “evangelize straight churches” with this process.

So Civlitas, mentioned above, along with its partners, and Hartford Institute in its work with Leadership Network, are both engaging a process or theory of social change to move evangelical Christians toward common ground for the common good with the LGBTQ activism in our culture, the greater common goal appearing to be participation in the distribution of massive amounts of taxpayer funding.

Proclaiming the Generosity Gospel  Coaching us toward Significance  to redefine the Gospel and “harness” the churches / believers’ cash?

Bob Buford has boasted that much of his work with Leadership Network is focused on “turning the latent energy in American Christianity into active energy” including his assurance to Peter Karoff in Global Philanthropy Movement “The World We want” to “deliver legions of wealthy Christians primed to become big time philanthropists”.  Thus, Christian giving and legacy endows “The World We Want” philanthropic goals of a globally neutered set of collectivist religions who downplay individual salvation and sanctification for collectivist “better worldian” saving society utopianism!  Given his boast of targeting the biggest market share of Baby Boomer wealth estimated in Buford’s Half Time series of books to be some $41 trillion dollars (his year 2,000 estimate), it would be fair to say the plot thickens.

Lifeway Research guru Ed Stetzer and Scott Thumma Collaborate—Is Lifeway Research driven by numbers or an agenda?

Ed Stetzer became the darling of evangelical research and began his deep impact on Evangelicals at the Southern Baptist Convention’s North American Missions Board.  He moved on to the SBC publishing giant and retailer Lifeway and headed Lifeway Research.  He currently holds the Billy Graham Chair of Church, Mission and Evangelism at Wheaton College.

Stetzer wrote endorsements and the epilogue for Bob Buford’s Drucker and Me and has an admitted long association with Leadership Network.  His work with Christianity Today, his Exchange Forum there and his influence through seminaries, books, Christianity Today’s dozen or so sister publications, church planting strategy, Urban Church Planting and Gospel Project curriculum, give him a major role in determining how the churches think about growth, evangelism, and ministry in the future.  Quite often in Christianity Today articles, Stetzer refers to the research of Leadership Network and partners and Hartford Institute.  Here Stetzer refers to his relationship with Scott Thumma: “Wednesday evening I got an email from my friend Scott Thumma, one of the authors of the research I had quoted and one of the top mega-church researchers in the country.”

Lifeway? — No Way – Yes WAY

So, thinking this through a moment — the lead researcher for the SBC’s Lifeway Research is good friends and collaborator with the developer of “The Gay Christian Identity” which negotiates the reconciling of a Biblical view of homosexuality and LGBTQ identity.  Suddenly the host of mixed messages on LGBTQ issues coming from Stetzer, Moore and others begin to take on a more disturbing edge.  Is this why Stetzer’s Exchange blog hosts a journalist outed for a gay tryst  in 2012 to converse about “The Future of Evangelicalism” and asserts that homosexuality, which was once considered a CURSE, is now considered a CROSS (to be born by the SSA Christian) to one day perhaps being celebrated as a CROWN?  Why is such a conversation being facilitated into mainstream Christian media?  The same interview described the current attitude of the church on a range of issues from homosexuality, gay marriage, abortion, legalizing drugs and more as being like “unbaked cookies which need to be placed back in the oven and taken out in three to five years to see where we are.”  This interview was about 3 years ago and the conversation and collaborations are about 33 years in the making.

Seeking the Welfare of the City – Is it possible to reach our cities with the Gospel while partnering with the ideologies destroying them?

This collaboration began 2005 in Orlando with CRU and Lausanne Movement representative Vonette  Bright, PCAs  Reformed Theological Seminary (Orlando) and NY City pastor Tim Keller.  The Polis Report here is worth the time to read.  The Seeking the Welfare of the City movement partners with pro- Marxist, pro-gay Urban specialist, Richard Florida, whose ideology promotes the use of a Gay Index and Tolerance Index much like the HRC Equality Index.  (Richard Florida is also promoted by Bob Buford, Leadership Network, many Ed Stetzer interviews, Tim Keller, and a host of other curiously confused conservatives.)

Florida measures and rates cities by his indexes.  (The Gayest Cities in America)  Florida’s work with Smart Cities, Atlantic Magazine, City Lab and other urban centralized planning is renowned as the gold standard in economic development, urban renewal, historic preservation and community transformation.  Florida’s books, beginning with the Rise of the Creative Class, assert that such urban centers must attract the Creative Class in order to succeed.  This Creative elite includes gays, lesbians. bohemians, artists and musicians whose absence from inclusion in your project would doom it to failure.  In actuality, the reason for Florida’s success lies more in the fact that major private and government grant funding uses his indexes as a LITMUS test for who will receive funding.  A Florida protegee’ helps run the UCLA based Williams Institute whose work includes tracking the location of LGBTQ population clusters in order to help aid in what radical activists call “Queering the Census”.

So, the question begs – how can ministries like CRU, Reformed Theological Seminary, and Lausanne  collaborate with such partners?  Where is the common ground and the common good?  How can Tim Keller, who has imported the Seek the Welfare of the City and Richard Florida’s Marxist ideology into his global church planting and City to City work, collaborate with such progressive pro homosexual policy while espousing Civility as the answer for the Church to a full-frontal assault?

Is Ignorance Bliss or just Criminal?

How can any of these church leaders named above ignore what is taking place in public schools with LGBTQ activists, the Human Rights Campaign and Planned Parenthood? How can conservative ministers jump on the collective band wagon of urban planning and think its pro Marxist and pro homosexual ideologies are compatible with or can be “Christianized” by injecting few Bible verse justifications?  Whatever sells and whatever gets funded may be all the answer that is needed.  If that is the case then the honest thing to do would be to come out of the closet as humanists and no longer preach and write and minister as though you are a defender of and faithful to Biblical principle.

The Ecstasy Turning Agony.

Given Scott Thumma’s work with the heart of evangelicalism’s trend setters and the ideology to “negotiate a Gay Evangelical Identity,” the once reliable litmus test of sounding biblically orthodox in one’s position on homosexuality is no longer a meaningful measure, given that one can, as asserted, be both biblically conservative and gay or allow for a gay Christianity.  This is all being brought about admittedly by a process of socialization and a Theory of Social Change.  All this for the “Common Good” as the white knights of evangelicalism seek to save society by selling short the churches’ true role in it.  Faith Based money is the single common thread, the reorienting of the church toward the great “quest for equality” and the common goal of saving society is the touted pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.  Individualism is exchanged for the collective Christian identity.  Marx and Hegel would be proud.  The ONE whose Kingdom is not of this world is likely not watching with approval. And the Church is being called to partner with these delusions.

For the Church, we are left looking heavenward for some faithful leadership. How long, O Lord?

More articles by Tom Littleton are posted on his blog at Blue Collar Saints.